Thread: Need help with this scripture

The bible clearly teaches that Jesus' kingdom is an eternal kingdom, and that He will rule and reign forever. But these verses seem to contradict that:

1 COR 15:22-28

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

27For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

This seems to suggest that the Kingdom will be delivered back to the Father to rule and reign.

Help!

that refers to the end of the millenial reign.

Originally Posted by jasoncran

that refers to the end of the millenial reign.

Yeah, that's kind of what I thought. But I think the bible also teaches that Jesus would reign for all eternity. Hebrews 1:8: "But unto the Son he (God) saith Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."

Originally Posted by faithtransforms

Originally Posted by jasoncran

that refers to the end of the millenial reign.

Yeah, that's kind of what I thought. But I think the bible also teaches that Jesus would reign for all eternity. Hebrews 1:8: "But unto the Son he (God) saith Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."

a shifting of roles, so to speak, jesus and the father are one. the father lets the son reign and then switches, but if you accept the trinity the son and the father and the holy spirit all co rule. so i see no contradiction.

Originally Posted by jasoncran

Originally Posted by faithtransforms

Originally Posted by jasoncran

that refers to the end of the millenial reign.

Yeah, that's kind of what I thought. But I think the bible also teaches that Jesus would reign for all eternity. Hebrews 1:8: "But unto the Son he (God) saith Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."

a shifting of roles, so to speak, jesus and the father are one. the father lets the son reign and then switches, but if you accept the trinity the son and the father and the holy spirit all co rule. so i see no contradiction.

Yeah, that does make sense in terms of the trinity co-ruling. But I'm not sure I'm settled in my spirit yet. Something still seems a little off. I will meditate on it.

how, the cessation of the son? a return to the preincarnate days.

even then the bible uses elohim, a plural, word for the Lord meaning the strong ones have sworn.

hmm, you are trinitarian, correct? he we go again

i wanted be sure, adrain rogers taught that. when i speak of the trinity often i forget that.

i can see that.what you have said the jw aslo taught that of all things.

Originally Posted by glorydaz

Originally Posted by jasoncran

i wanted be sure, adrain rogers taught that. when i speak of the trinity often i forget that.

i can see that.what you have said the jw aslo taught that of all things.

I don't believe that is exactly what they taught...but it is what the Scripture teaches.

they believe that after the thousand yr reignt that jesus would cede the throne back to the father and be an archangel only again(that is where they deviate).

I think the jw's actually think Jesus was an incarnation of the archangel Michael. I think its the mormons that say he was "a god." But I could be wrong.