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    INSECT-EATEN EVOLUTION!

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    Part One
    There's an awful lot that insects say against evolution, and I'll bring the most powerful points to the forum
    . Even if you aren't overly interested in the subjest, do have a look, and be amazed!

    THE ORIGIN OF INSECTS

    Before you read this, go here for a thorough brutalisation of the theory of evolution, which underlines many of the points I have been making:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGCkpuNu9QA


    There’s an awful lot of insects. Just to give you an idea:

    They are among the most diverse groups of animals on the planet, including more than a million described species and representing more than half of all known living organisms.[2][3] The number of extant species is estimated at between six and ten million,[2][4][5] and potentially represent over 90% of the differing metazoan life forms on Earth.[6]
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    And all this from a ‘common ancestor’! What utter bunkum!

    It beggars belief, that so much, so many, so diverse organisms could come from a ‘common ancestor’!

    But then, evolutionsts follow their sacred cow, no matter where it may lead. The cow says: There was a hellish lot of evolution going on at some point in time in the past, wasn’t there!

    That, of course, is entirely opposed to the usual mutation/natural selection claptrap we have become used to on this forum.

    Mark one against evolution.

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    Re: INSECT-EATEN EVOLUTION!

    They first appeared 407 – 396 million years ago. Looking, guess what? Just like modern insects. Oh yeah, they found wingless insects – but they were INSECTS! Complete with head, thorax and abdomen, six legs, just like the wingless insects around today.

    Springtails,
    bristletails and the first true insects first appear in the fossil record in the Devonian, 410-354 mya.

    The first winged insects, the mayflies, grasshoppers and cockroaches, did not appear until the Carboniferous, 354-298 mya (spiders and scorpions also evolved at this time). Beetles, flies, true bugs, booklice, thrips, stoneflies, webspinners and lacewings (and frogs) all appeared in the Permian, 298-251 mya.
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    Here’s a marvellous thing. Springtails. What’s a springtail?




    Most species have an abdominal, tail-like appendage, the furcula, that is folded beneath the body to be used for jumping when the animal is threatened. It is held under tension by a small structure called the retinaculum and when released, snaps against the substrate, flinging the springtail into the air. All of this takes place in as little as 18 milliseconds.
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    Got that? No?

    It’s a gadget, a spring, under the abdomen of the insect, designed to fling the insect into the air to escape its predators. Maybe it jumps for the sheer fun of it, who knows.

    But such a mechanism cannot have evolved bit by bit. Any missing part, and the insect is dead – because it can’t get away.

    So how did the spring evolve? It clearly didn’t.

    Now hear the presumptuous stupidity as the sacred cow moos:

    also evolved at this time

    Just look at that incredible list above. Here it is again:

    Springtails are attested to since the Early Devonian.[9] The fossil from 400 million years ago, Rhyniella praecursor, is the oldest terrestrial arthropod, and was found in the famous Rhynie chert of Scotland. Given its morphology resembles extant species quite well, the radiation of the Hexapoda can be situated in the Silurian, 420 million years ago or more.
    See? No evolution has taken place for 400 million years – and the insect was perfect from the start: a genuine springtail, like those today.

    Here’s the grudging admission: ‘Given its morphology resembles extant species quite well’ simply means it looks just like the modern ones.

    So, evolution? What evolution? M-o-o-o-o!

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    Re: INSECT-EATEN EVOLUTION!

    For a total brutalisation of the theory by the fossils, go here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGCkpuNu9QA


    Here are some wings from the Permian, NEARLY 400 MILLION YEARS AGO. Doesn’t look too different to a modern insect wing, does it?





    It is believed that by the Tertiary, 63 million years ago, there existed many of what are still modern genera; hence, most insects in amber are, indeed, members of extant genera. What seems most fascinating is that insects diversified in a relatively brief 100 million years (give or take) into the modern forms that exist with minor change in modern times.


    Notice, they had taken the modern forms by then – so that means that they were doing so a long time before that!

    Fossil evidence? None worth the name.

    The modern forms are no different to the ancient ones, and the fossils in amber, preserve insects that are indistinguishable from today’s forms.

    A few or them now follow: no evolution has taken place, or ever will. 230 mya : the found 2 flies and a mite – all perfectly formed, and easily identifiable.


    Evolution? What evolution?

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    50 million year old ant. See any differences to today's ants? No? What does that prove? NO EVOLUTION HAS TAKEN PLACE IN 50 MILLION YEARS. tHEN HOW CAN WE BE SURE THAT ANY TOOK PLACE BEFORE THAT?

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    Evidence: A fly identified as Psocoptera, one of around 100 species of arthropod found preserved in amber dating back 50 million years

    See ANY differences to today’s flies? No? What does that prove? Answer: evolution did NOT, HAS NOT TAKEN PLACE.


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    A spider web preserved in amber, thought to be 110 million years old, shows evidence [...] that orb spinning was in an advanced state as many as 136 million years ago. One of these, the araneid Nephila jurassica, from about 165 million years ago, recorded from Daohuogo, Inner Mongolia in China, is the largest known fossil spider.[1]
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    Here's a picture of the fossil of Nephila jurassica.

    Sorry, it won't come on. Go here instead:

    http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...9QEwAg&dur=489

    See ANY differences to today’s spiders? No? What does that prove? Answer: evolution did NOT, HAS NOT TAKEN PLACE.
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    Re: INSECT-EATEN EVOLUTION!



    Here's a spider eating a wasp, 100 million years ago. Notice anything?
    Yeah. No evolution has taken place.

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    Nonetheless, these fragments have led experts to agree that insects must have originated millions of years earlier, perhaps at the end of the Silurian Period, about 415 million years ago.


    The first substantial record of insects is in Pennsylvanian rocks, deposited from about 315 to 300 million years ago, by which time insects had evolved wings and a variety of other specialized structures.

    That may be an out of date quote, because older fossils have been found – but the ENORMOUS problem is Still there: WINGS! WINGS! WINGS!


    The oldest definitive insect fossil is the Devonian Rhyniognatha hirsti, estimated at 407 to 396 million years ago.[6] This species already possessed dicondylic mandibles, a feature associated with winged insects, suggesting that wings may already have evolved at this time.
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    Ooohh! Just look! The wings are there on the first insect fossils! This MOST ADVANCED FEATURE possible, is RIGHT THERE, from the beginning!

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    Species of Orthoptera, or grasshoppers and related kin, is an ancient order that still exist till today extending from this time period. From which time even the distinctive synapomorphy of saltatorial, or adaptive for jumping, hind legs is preserved.
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    So they can fly – and jump too! How did both of those evolve, one wonders, yesssss, one wonders!


    Not only are the wings present, but paired wings are present. Dragonflies can hover – and the synchronisation of the wing movements is an unbelievable feature. Hovering is also an amazing feature – but it’s right there !

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    Ancient wings : A fossil of Protolindenia wittei, a dragonfly with a wingspan of about 15 cm. This exquisitely preserved specimen comes from the Jurassic Solnhofen limestones of Bavaria, Germany, and is about 155 million years old. The oldest fossils of Odonata are more than twice that old!

    How much difference do you see? None, I guess, AFTER 155 -310 MILLION YEARS OF 'EVOLUTION'!!

    So ALL together now! What DIDN'T happen?

    EVOLUTION!!!!

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    “…beetles may have originated during the Lower Permian, up to 299 million years ago.” Wiki T


    These are among the oldest insects known: and they are distinguishable as beetles! What else was there, one wonders.


    All this is bad enough, and should convince even the most die-hard evolutionists that evolution has not, did, not, and can not have taken place.



    But the sacred cow moos, and the happy band follows.

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    Acanthaeschna victoria
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    Dendroaeschna conspersa
    Epiaeschna heros
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    Gomphaeschna furcillata
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