Catholic argument against sola scriptura refuted. Willing and able to take on his replacements

[Winnies]

Iv just joined and not surprised to see the catholic’s being targeted

Wrong again.
But then we have been through all of this before. No point in repeating it all.

Is it not the Protestant churches who interpret the bible to suit all their dominations, some 6000 or more?

 

[Winnies]

All l hear so far is the devil trying to turn us all against each other. Don’t you understand Jesus won’t come back until the churches are UNITED!!

 

[Winnies]

All l hear so far is the devil trying to turn us all against each other. Don’t you understand Jesus won’t come back until the churches are UNITED!!

Not that the catholic’s can’t stand up for themselves. But we are never going to agree so can we just learn to live with each other and try and LOVE one another like we are asked, and if we can’t then religion is gone forever and people with believe the new doctrine that we ourselves can be like God. And that’s when the devil will have all the souls. It is to even about God anymore, it’s about land here un the uk. The Catholi are Irish and be the Protestants are English and the other countries can see it for what it is and that’s why we now live in a secular society huh!!!

 

[Winnies]

Not that the catholic’s can’t stand up for themselves. But we are never going to agree so can we just learn to live with each other and try and LOVE one another like we are asked, and if we can’t then religion is gone forever and people with believe the new doctrine that we ourselves can be like God. And that’s when the devil will have all the souls. It is to even about God anymore, it’s about land here un the uk. The Catholi are Irish and be the Protestants are English and the other countries can see it for what it is and that’s why we now live in a secular society huh!!!

The only weapon we had against the English was God but they twisted that all up to suit themselves.

 

[donadams]

Is it possible to include “scripture is the ultimate authority” in the context of sola scriptura?

Thks

 

[Alfred Persson]

You said...

"Jesus was born Holy because of the Holy Spirit, not Mary:"

Source

Jesus was born Holy because He is God. He is holy by nature.

Jesus didn't overshadow the virgin and cause her to conceive, the Holy Spirit did....therefore what was born is Holy because of the Holy Spirit.

Of course Jesus is the Eternal Son of God, Holy. I never said different.

 

[Walpole]

Jesus didn't overshadow the virgin and cause her to conceive, the Holy Spirit did....therefore what was born is Holy because of the Holy Spirit.

Conceived by the Holy Spirit means the Holy Spirit was the active principle of His conception in the womb of Mary. It does not mean unto likeness of species, as we can say you were born of your father. It is for this reason we do not say Christ is the Son of the Holy Spirit.

Once again, Jesus Christ is holy because He is God and therefore holy by His very nature.

Of course Jesus is the Eternal Son of God, Holy. I never said different.

Your line of attack against the immaculate conception of Mary was that Jesus was holy "because of the Holy Spirit".

This statement of yours demonstrates one of two things: Either you have no understanding of the Christian understanding of the Trinity, or you have no understanding of the Christian understanding of the Incarnation. I would venture to guess if we continue this discussion, it will be revealed that both of these are true.

 

[donadams]

Jesus didn't overshadow the virgin and cause her to conceive, the Holy Spirit did....therefore what was born is Holy because of the Holy Spirit.

Of course Jesus is the Eternal Son of God, Holy. I never said different.

Can something unholy be consecrated to God’s service?

Can something consecrated to God’s service then be used for an ordinary purpose?

Hint: exodus even the utensils had to be covered in pure gold and consecrated for God’s purpose alone

 

[Alfred Persson]

Conceived by the Holy Spirit means the Holy Spirit was the active principle of His conception in the womb of Mary. It does not mean unto likeness of species, as we can say you were born of your father. It is for this reason we do not say Christ is the Son of the Holy Spirit.

Once again, Jesus Christ is holy because He is God and therefore holy by His very nature.


Your line of attack against the immaculate conception of Mary was that Jesus was holy "because of the Holy Spirit".

This statement of yours demonstrates one of two things: Either you have no understanding of the Christian understanding of the Trinity, or you have no understanding of the Christian understanding of the Incarnation. I would venture to guess if we continue this discussion, it will be revealed that both of these are true.

I had enough. Bye.

 

[Alfred Persson]

Can something unholy be consecrated to God’s service?

Can something consecrated to God’s service then be used for an ordinary purpose?

Hint: exodus even the utensils had to be covered in pure gold and consecrated for God’s purpose alone

Of course not, but I never said it could. You confuse me with someone else.

 

[Walpole]

I had enough. Bye.

Goodbye and take care.

 

[donadams]

Scripture says: “holiness befits thy house, O Lord” (Ps 93:5). Mary was Jesus’ “house” for 9 months so if holiness befits God’s house would not Mary be holy also? Just like the Ark and the Tabernacle she was set apart and consecrated to the Lord., the holy dwelling of God.

1 cor 3:17 …..for the temple of God is holy….. Mary is the temple, house, dwelling of God, God had need of Her to become man!

As Job said “Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? There is not one.” (Job 14:4).

 

[Walpole]

Scripture says: “holiness befits thy house, O Lord” (Ps 93:5). Mary was Jesus’ “house” for 9 months so if holiness befits God’s house would not Mary be holy also? Just like the Ark and the Tabernacle she was set apart and consecrated to the Lord., the holy dwelling of God.

1 cor 3:17 …..for the temple of God is holy….. Mary is the temple, house, dwelling of God, God had need of Her to become man!

As Job said “Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? There is not one.” (Job 14:4).

All these attacks against Mary end up revealing they have a flawed Christology and have no understanding of orthodox Trinitarian theology.