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Greetings again SolaScriptura,
Unitarianism CANNOT explain these FACTS!
You did not answer my question about the other "begotten" and this difficulty is one of the many why I do not accept the Trinity. I believe that the One God, Yahweh, God the Father was the Creator.

I believe that Jesus was and is a human and did not pre-exist his birth. I am therefore in a different position to the JWs. I consider that both Trinitarians and JWs have teachings contrary to the Bible teaching.

I will leave this thread now. Enough has been discussed and I am not proficient at answering some of these Jesus as "creator" passages though I could copy and paste a few answers. I will leave this to others with better knowledge and exposition skills. Psalm 8:1 teaches me that the One God, Yahweh, God the Father is the Creator.

Kind regards
Trevor
 
Greetings again SolaScriptura,

You did not answer my question about the other "begotten" and this difficulty is one of the many why I do not accept the Trinity. I believe that the One God, Yahweh, God the Father was the Creator.

I believe that Jesus was and is a human and did not pre-exist his birth. I am therefore in a different position to the JWs. I consider that both Trinitarians and JWs have teachings contrary to the Bible teaching.

I will leave this thread now. Enough has been discussed and I am not proficient at answering some of these Jesus as "creator" passages though I could copy and paste a few answers. I will leave this to others with better knowledge and exposition skills. Psalm 8:1 teaches me that the One God, Yahweh, God the Father is the Creator.

Kind regards
Trevor

The only BEGETTING of Jesus Christ is at His Conception in the Virgin Mary
 
I believe that Jesus was and is a human and did not pre-exist his birth.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. John 1:1-3

  • and the Word was God.


Here we see that all things were made through Him (The Word).

All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

Nothing that was made, was made without Him.


The Word became Flesh.

And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. John 1:14

  • The Word was God.
  • The Word became flesh.
  • God was manifested in the flesh


And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:
God was manifested in the flesh,
Justified in the Spirit,
Seen by angels,
Preached among the Gentiles,
Believed on in the world,
Received up in glory. 1 Timothy 3:16



Please tell me what you disagree with in these scriptures.
 
I believe that Jesus was and is a human and did not pre-exist his birth

Isaiah 9.6 is on verse that proves you wrong

Also

John 6:51
[51]I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world. ”
 
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