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That has nothing to do with Nietszche's philosophy. Nietsche's outlook was all about being a loner and not careing what the world thinks of you. Nietszche was anti society, while relativism is pro society. Nihlism is about the self while Relativism is about harmony with the wholeazlan88 wrote:Roman spiritualism was used as an attempt to extract Nietzsche's madness.[/quote} I don't think I follow you on this. It didn't work. But the resurgence of Nietzsche's philosophy in the form of moral relativism, which people defend by saying, "don't judge me!" and "you're intolerant!"
We haven't removed morality. I think you are judging the United states from a biased opinion. Morality was always left up to the indevidual states, towns, and townships. That is why there are lists of odd laws throught the United states that are unique to their area.has given the world, and particularly America, a thrashing. It's necessary to quote Francis A. Schaeffer, who wrote in his book, How Should We Then Live? about freedom without chaos and freedom with chaos. Because we have largely removed morality from public and private life, we have freedom with chaos.
No morality isn't dead, it can't die. Morality is the ethical way people interact with each other. People still have morals, but nobody has the exact same morals.azlan88 wrote:Lance, look around you. Morality is all but dead.
Time dosen't stand still Azlan. The more knowledge people gain, the more they question.Everything is completely different from the way it used to be.
Azlan you've seen a few people dress like this, but that dosen't mean as a whole people dress more provokativly. Yes, people are more open about sex. Thats because people understand it better, and more information is available. We no longer live in a society that beleives oral sex causes infirtility, or that women don't enjoy sex. The Misconceptions are no longer there.People used to be so uptight about sex that women's skirts hung at their ankles. Now they're just above women's crotches, indicating a change in the way people view sex.
Wich gose back to, more knowledge more questions and adaptation.I'm not saying that high skirts are "immoral." I'm just using an example of how the mindset has changed.
The big problem here though is that these people aren't real. No damage is being done. People go to horror movies to either be scared or have a good time. People play videogames because it fullfills a fantasy in a way that is not possible in real life without consiquences. I like left 4 dead 1 and 2. Its fantasy. Its nice being able to come home after a stressful day at college or work and destroy me some zombies.Look at violence, too. We don't have a Roman arena, but we have bloody horror movies and video games to satisfy people's lust for blood (I'm not condemning electronics).
The F word is one in teh line of many words used in a vulgur fasion. Of all things to complain about, a word seems really trivial.And how can we forget the F-bombs that we throw around?
I'm sorry this is outright false. I think you are confusing your morality with others morality. People aren't judging others by your standards, so you claim society has no morals.My point is that we live in a permissive society in which few have the courage to judge others on the basis of morality,
This is your morality seeping through again, and not based on teh whole.and the bar that sets the standard for human behavior drops lower and lower, allowing us to satiate our evil indulgences, obeying the flesh in its lusts.
No its that it dosen't agree with your society.You are dead wrong about moral relativism being in harmony with the whole of society. It is the anti-society.
We are becoming less human and more animal, and yet our relationships are becoming more mechanical than organic, but that's another story.
Society. Before this goese any further, i dont' agree with universal realativism.azlan88 wrote:Lance, I don't understand what you mean by "the whole."
NO, because you violate a person's right to life liberty and pursuit of happines.Can you clarify? That said, let me ask you this. is it okay for a white man to hold a black man as a slave?
Same as slavery, I'm actually curious as to how that relates to anything I said though. Especially since my entire stance here has been that everyperson deserves basic human rights, and non damaging to society beliefs should not be hindered.And is it okay for nazis to treat Jews as non-persons?
Armor of God wrote:Since WWII the disease of liberalism in our society has taken root. .
Rights aren't morality. Why people deserve what I said would be the moral side.azlan88 wrote:Okay, so we are in agreement that there is a universal, objective morality that should be adhered to, then? Meaning that morality isn't just confined to any one person' point of view?
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