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We live in the age of democracy. Any form of government that is not democratic, is thought of as being oppressive, and governments rely upon the support of the people to sustain their claim to power - which is why democracy is the instrument of choice.

Daniel 2 sets out a prophecy for the eventual coming of the everlasting reign of Christ's kingdom: there is a statue depicting various stages of the empire known as "Babylon the Great". It is so called Babylon the Great, because it shows the history of the empire of humankind's worldwide superpower throughout the ages. The first stage was the most pure, depicted by a head of gold. That empire was called the Babylonian Empire, because it was King Nebuchadnezzar, the king of Babylon, who received the prophetic dream.

Through the various stages where the empire changes hands, from one civilization to another, it also becomes gradually inferior to it's origin. The head of gold merges into a chest of silver, to a torso of bronze, legs of iron and lastly the feet which are made of a mixture of iron and clay:

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There is no insignificance in the properties used to depict the descent of the Empire. The value of the materials has remained virtually the same through the ages: gold is used for invoking fear. It is an instrument used for influence by elite, wealthy classes. Silver is rather a currency to purchase with. It is with silver that the value of goods is measured, from food to land. Bronze is used for decor and weapons, while iron is an industrial metal. Finally, the clay is really good for nothing, but nonetheless, there it is, found mingled with the last remaining fragments of iron, at the feet; the very thing that is supporting the full stature of the statue.

Now what is interesting about all of this, is that empires are traditionally seen as institutions of power that rule over the people - and here in the very last stage, it is seen that the people are in fact the thing that is supporting the institution! .. and furthermore, the institution is divided, meaning that they have distributed the power among a number of competing parties. It is said that "although they will try to strengthen the kingdom by intermarrying, it will not succeed, for iron and clay don't mix".

And so I found it very interesting to hear a thing that caught my attention today, as I reflect upon how the ruling class has become so unable to support itself through the inherent weakness of it, and now we have commentators in the media, (remember, they have the unofficial role of political ambassadors of the people), now saying that "we can no longer think of the justice department watching over and being the arbiter of what is fair or responsible or constitutional". Let that sink in. And then listen to what he says about the politicians next.


What is the point of my sharing this, you might ask? .. well, that's an interesting question. But we are members of the one body, and each has been appointed a role in that body. Now, when each member does it's part effectively, it builds itself up in love. There also is the warning given, that if the one appointed to see danger coming doesn't raise the alarm, then the blood will be demanded from him. I certainly don't want to be responsible for bloodshed. I am vegan exactly for that reason alone.
 
Democracy is not a guarantee of the rights of the individual.
Surfing ww2 the UK, a democracy, imposed far harsher restrictions upon its own people.
Largely because they believed in the cause but more because they obeyed the government.
Democracy only really works in a Christian society, one where Christian principals are known and largely followed.
 
Democracy is not a guarantee of the rights of the individual.
Surfing ww2 the UK, a democracy, imposed far harsher restrictions upon its own people.
Largely because they believed in the cause but more because they obeyed the government.
Democracy only really works in a Christian society, one where Christian principals are known and largely followed.
It really was meant to highlight the fact that the empire is weakened and it is crumbling. The people cannot support it and it has no strength of its own left in it.
 
Now...
Just to throw some other stuff into the mix.

The King of Babylon could and would and did absolutely reverse himself...and as represented as the most precious metal maybe this is the reason.

The Persians could reverse themselves kinda...they could make most decrees unenforceable except for the kind that got Daniel thrown into the lion's den.

The Greek kingdom under Alexander...well they just ignored laws they decided they didn't like.

The Roman Empire was unique...it actually had the first instance of voting...and lots of iron swords, shields, and armor. Getting the population to reverse themselves is like... well... you know.

Just throwing this tidbit of information out there.
 
Now...
Just to throw some other stuff into the mix.

The King of Babylon could and would and did absolutely reverse himself...and as represented as the most precious metal maybe this is the reason.

The Persians could reverse themselves kinda...they could make most decrees unenforceable except for the kind that got Daniel thrown into the lion's den.

The Greek kingdom under Alexander...well they just ignored laws they decided they didn't like.

The Roman Empire was unique...it actually had the first instance of voting...and lots of iron swords, shields, and armor. Getting the population to reverse themselves is like... well... you know.

Just throwing this tidbit of information out there.
Certainly can read a lot into it! (I never meddle with prophecy).
 
Seven remaining nations that still exist today:

Babylonian Empire:
(Iraq) The lion represents the winged lions that guarded the royal places of Babylon. This Empire ran approximately from 2000BC - 1759BC

Medo – Persian Empire:
(Iran) The ribs of the bear are part of the consuming greed that devours the first empire. This Empire ran approximately from 536BC - 330BC

Grecian Empire:
(Greece, Turkey, Syria, Egypt) Four wings of the leopard described the swiftness of this empire that ran from 334-331BC. It wrestled world dominion from Medo-Persia. After the death of Alexander the Great the kingdom was divided into four minor kingdoms that continued as prominent factors in world politics until the Roman Empire gathered it back as one kingdom.

Roman Empire: (little horn, Daniel 8:9-14, 23-27)
Iron represents the stronghold this nation had. Daniel chapter 2 mentions the iron element of this empire that it to will be divided and broken as God will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed.
This Empire ran from 753BC -27BC
 
Suddenly Babylon has fallen and she is shattered.
Wail over her!
Take balm for her wounds,
perhaps she may be healed.
We tried to heal Babylon, and she was not healed.

Are we to forsake the kings who have drunk of her wine?

Seven remaining nations that still exist today:

Babylonian Empire:
(Iraq) The lion represents the winged lions that guarded the royal places of Babylon. This Empire ran approximately from 2000BC - 1759BC

Medo – Persian Empire:
(Iran) The ribs of the bear are part of the consuming greed that devours the first empire. This Empire ran approximately from 536BC - 330BC

Grecian Empire:
(Greece, Turkey, Syria, Egypt) Four wings of the leopard described the swiftness of this empire that ran from 334-331BC. It wrestled world dominion from Medo-Persia. After the death of Alexander the Great the kingdom was divided into four minor kingdoms that continued as prominent factors in world politics until the Roman Empire gathered it back as one kingdom.

Roman Empire: (little horn, Daniel 8:9-14, 23-27)
Iron represents the stronghold this nation had. Daniel chapter 2 mentions the iron element of this empire that it to will be divided and broken as God will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed.
This Empire ran from 753BC -27BC

That fourth empire you say ended in 24BC certainly has not come to an end, although it has changed hands a number of times (hence it has become divided). That symbolism of iron smashing everything is seen clearly through the spirit of the coming prince written in Daniel 9:24-26, and seen ruling the past two millenia through the likes of a church burning books and hanging bible publishers. These are the days spoken of in Daniel 7:27 while the kingdom of Messiah awaits the judgment that puts it into the hands of the saints.
 
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