IS JESUS THE LITERAL SON OF GOD?

[Pipiripi]

Do you believe Jesus Christ is the Lord God?



JLB

Jesus is not THE Lord God. Jesus is Lord God. The word "THE" is only for THE Father.

 

[JLB]

Jesus is not THE Lord God. Jesus is Lord God. The word "THE" is only for THE Father.

Then you shall flee through My mountain valley,
For the mountain valley shall reach to Azal.
Yes, you shall flee
As you fled from the earthquake
In the days of Uzziah king of Judah.
Thus the LORD my God will come,
And all the saints with You.
Zechariah 14:5

• Thus the LORD my God will come, and all the saints with You.

This verse refers to Jesus coming with the saints.




JLB

 

[Pipiripi]

Then you shall flee through My mountain valley,
For the mountain valley shall reach to Azal.
Yes, you shall flee
As you fled from the earthquake
In the days of Uzziah king of Judah.
Thus the LORD my God will come,
And all the saints with You.
Zechariah 14:5

• Thus the LORD my God will come, and all the saints with You.

This verse refers to Jesus coming with the saints.




JLB

Yes, Jesus is the Lord my God. Not the Lord my The God.

 

[PeterJens]

Created are not the same as begotten or posses or come forth. If Jesus don't have a beginning just like the Trinity teaching teaches, that He is not a Son of God. He is God and God and God. 3 Different Gods, but one. There's no sense in this doctrine. The Bible teaches. One True God and His Son Jesus Christ and THEIR Holy Spirit. Don't you see the difference of what God teaches and men teaching?

There is a conceptual leap one needs to make.
A human is a human, yet take away their hand, is their hand less than them or just a part of the whole, and is the remainder less than the whole, and cannot be defined as them. The connection between parts of the body and the whole do not devalue the identity or each part, they are still part of the whole.

So every aspect of God is still God, though part of the whole, but not all of it. This is the problem with talking about the eternal, not created. Compartmentalisation does not diminish the whole or negate it. So Jesus can be God, but not the whole as the Father is, but still part and yet separate. Equally the idea of the same essence in two beings, together yet apart is hard for us to comprehend, because we do not experience it in life. But the Holy Spirit is unique, giving communion with the Lord through Him, yet Jesus and the Father do not have this kind of communion.

Jesus talks about His word indwelling us, and in a sense that is Jesus within us. This makes language difficult between being aligned in thought and deed with another, but not actually being indwelt by the other.

John the Baptist was indwelt by the Holy Spirit from conception and is deemed least in the Kingdom, because he did not choose this, but was indwelt from the start. Jesus exalts the difference between being alone and in rejection to communion and being indwelt. So I stand as a student listening and sharing what Jesus says. God bless you

 

[Pipiripi]

There is a conceptual leap one needs to make.
A human is a human, yet take away their hand, is their hand less than them or just a part of the whole, and is the remainder less than the whole, and cannot be defined as them. The connection between parts of the body and the whole do not devalue the identity or each part, they are still part of the whole.

So every aspect of God is still God, though part of the whole, but not all of it. This is the problem with talking about the eternal, not created. Compartmentalisation does not diminish the whole or negate it. So Jesus can be God, but not the whole as the Father is, but still part and yet separate. Equally the idea of the same essence in two beings, together yet apart is hard for us to comprehend, because we do not experience it in life. But the Holy Spirit is unique, giving communion with the Lord through Him, yet Jesus and the Father do not have this kind of communion.

Jesus talks about His word indwelling us, and in a sense that is Jesus within us. This makes language difficult between being aligned in thought and deed with another, but not actually being indwelt by the other.

John the Baptist was indwelt by the Holy Spirit from conception and is deemed least in the Kingdom, because he did not choose this, but was indwelt from the start. Jesus exalts the difference between being alone and in rejection to communion and being indwelt. So I stand as a student listening and sharing what Jesus says. God bless you

Its okay so, it is difficult to show people exactly what is written in the Bible that they can see what is written. Like Jesus says:" They have eyes, but they don't see, hear but don't heard. Do you know why? Read. 2 Thessalonians 2:10-11

 

[Pipiripi]

There is a conceptual leap one needs to make.
A human is a human, yet take away their hand, is their hand less than them or just a part of the whole, and is the remainder less than the whole, and cannot be defined as them. The connection between parts of the body and the whole do not devalue the identity or each part, they are still part of the whole.

So every aspect of God is still God, though part of the whole, but not all of it. This is the problem with talking about the eternal, not created. Compartmentalisation does not diminish the whole or negate it. So Jesus can be God, but not the whole as the Father is, but still part and yet separate. Equally the idea of the same essence in two beings, together yet apart is hard for us to comprehend, because we do not experience it in life. But the Holy Spirit is unique, giving communion with the Lord through Him, yet Jesus and the Father do not have this kind of communion.

Jesus talks about His word indwelling us, and in a sense that is Jesus within us. This makes language difficult between being aligned in thought and deed with another, but not actually being indwelt by the other.

John the Baptist was indwelt by the Holy Spirit from conception and is deemed least in the Kingdom, because he did not choose this, but was indwelt from the start. Jesus exalts the difference between being alone and in rejection to communion and being indwelt. So I stand as a student listening and sharing what Jesus says. God bless you

You can take whatever you want it will stay a human part. God the Father and Jesus His Son is not a part. They are one in their own body. God is Spirit but Jesus is flesh and bone.

 

[PeterJens]

You can take whatever you want it will stay a human part. God the Father and Jesus His Son is not a part. They are one in their own body. God is Spirit but Jesus is flesh and bone.

I see you definition, very physical.
I see union is spiritual and emotional expression. I see eternity in relationship and responsibility, one to another.
Though you are suggesting the Father is only Spirit, He fill the heavenly temple and sits on a throne.

So the Father has a physical presence, which can be seen. To see the Lords face, is said by the Father will kill us, so only the Son has seen the Fathers face. But then how can a spirit have a face?

So I would suggest you proposition is only partly true, and you are trying to define things in a narrow way which the Lord does not emphasise. The Lord is the Lord of relationships and respect. It is these aspects He admires and desires we learn and follow. The spiritual and physical matter less than these principles. The ten commandments are all about relationships and respect between us and God , and between ourselves and others.

God bless you

 

[Pipiripi]

I see you definition, very physical.
I see union is spiritual and emotional expression. I see eternity in relationship and responsibility, one to another.
Though you are suggesting the Father is only Spirit, He fill the heavenly temple and sits on a throne.

So the Father has a physical presence, which can be seen. To see the Lords face, is said by the Father will kill us, so only the Son has seen the Fathers face. But then how can a spirit have a face?

So I would suggest you proposition is only partly true, and you are trying to define things in a narrow way which the Lord does not emphasise. The Lord is the Lord of relationships and respect. It is these aspects He admires and desires we learn and follow. The spiritual and physical matter less than these principles. The ten commandments are all about relationships and respect between us and God , and between ourselves and others.

God bless you

My friend my devination is not only physical. It is both. Our Spiritual live us our minds and hearts. By keeping the 10 Commandments is by obeying what is written and love what is written. Specially the 4th command that many Christians don't know what it is. By put all 10 Commandments in practice and when people see us they see the light of God in us. That is the seal of God. Our fight is not against human. Ephesians 6:10-18