Luke 21:20-24 and 70 A.D.

[Quantrill]

Concerning the Olivet Discourse I believe you have two sieges of Jerusalem in view. This is found in (Matt. 24), (Mark 13), and (Luke 21).

I believe these verses in (Luke 21:20-24) speak to 70 A.D. for several reasons. For one, Jesus specifically was addressing the temple that existed when He prophesied of it's destruction. (Luke 21:6) So, somewhere there must be an answer to the disciples response question of "when shall these things be?", and how it pertains to the destruction of that existing temple. (21:7)

(Matt. 24) covers more thoroughly the siege of Jerusalem which will occur at the end of the age. And (Mark 13) covers the same but not as thoroughly. (Luke) addresses briefly the Tribulation, (21:8-11) and the return of Christ. (21:25-28) But Luke also speaks of the coming destruction of 70 A.D. when the temple is destroyed. (Luke 21:20-24)

The warning given by Christ as to when the disciples should flee in (Matt) and (Mark) relates to the 'abomination of desolation' being set up in the temple. (Mark 13:14) (Matt. 24:15) And this relates specifically to the end time event of the Tribulation spoken of by Daniel. (Dan. 9:27)

But note that in (Luke 21:20) the warning given involves Jerusalem surrounded by armies. "And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh." There was no abomination set up in the Temple in 70 A.D. But Jerusalem was surrounded. And, as most are aware, Christians in Jerusalem at that time remembered this warning by Christ. God provided for them miraculously, having the Roman army retreat briefly. The Christians made the most of it and escaped to Pella. The Roman army came back and destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple.

Note also that the end result of these sieges of Jerusalem is different. In (Luke), the end result is the Jews are destroyed, killed, led away captive, till the "Times of the Gentiles" be fulfilled. But in (Matt) and (Mark), the end result is the return of Christ and deliverance. (Matt. 24:29-31) (Mark 13:24-27). (Luke) does present the Second Coming of Christ, (Luke 21:25-28), but only after the 'Times of the Gentiles' are fulfilled. (21:24)

It is for these reasons that I believe (Luke 21:20-24) speak to 70 A.D.

Quantrill

 

[for_his_glory]

I agree that there was no abomination set up in the Temple in 70 AD, but that it was destroyed as Jesus said it would, Matthew 24:2. The land, being the holy place of God where the Temple sat on laid waste until 685 AD when the Muslims built the Dome of the Rock as a mashhad, a shrine for Islam pilgrims.

During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed at least twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times beginning with the Babylonian Empire up to the fourth Empire being the Roman Empire that was revived in 1929.

We will see history repeat itself in the end of days when the son of perdition takes his literal seat on the holy mount of God claiming he is God as he deceives those who have no truth found in them, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12; Rev 13.

Jesus gave the prophetic in Matthew 24:15 that happened in 70AD some 37 years after He ascended up to heaven. Rev 12, when Satan is finally cast out of heaven being cast down to the ground he will cause the last abomination of desolation of Jerusalem as the son of perdition takes his seat, not in the Temple of God, but the refurbished Dome of the Rock standing in the holy place.

 

[Quantrill]

I agree that there was no abomination set up in the Temple in 70 AD, but that it was destroyed as Jesus said it would, Matthew 24:2. The land, being the holy place of God where the Temple sat on laid waste until 685 AD when the Muslims built the Dome of the Rock as a mashhad, a shrine for Islam pilgrims.

During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed at least twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times beginning with the Babylonian Empire up to the fourth Empire being the Roman Empire that was revived in 1929.

We will see history repeat itself in the end of days when the son of perdition takes his literal seat on the holy mount of God claiming he is God as he deceives those who have no truth found in them, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12; Rev 13.

Jesus gave the prophetic in Matthew 24:15 that happened in 70AD some 37 years after He ascended up to heaven. Rev 12, when Satan is finally cast out of heaven being cast down to the ground he will cause the last abomination of desolation of Jerusalem as the son of perdition takes his seat, not in the Temple of God, but the refurbished Dome of the Rock standing in the holy place.

Well, yes the Temple was destroyed in 70 A.D. But nothing in (Matt. 24:15) speaks to that, as you first said. There was no abomination of desolation set up in the Temple in 70 A.D. That, (Matt. 24:15), speaks to the future Temple that (Daniel) is addressing in (Dan. 9:27).

My point was that (Luke 21:20-24) does speak to the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in 70 A.D.

Quantrill

 

[JLB]

Concerning the Olivet Discourse I believe you have two sieges of Jerusalem in view. This is found in (Matt. 24), (Mark 13), and (Luke 21).

I believe these verses in (Luke 21:20-24) speak to 70 A.D. for several reasons. For one, Jesus specifically was addressing the temple that existed when He prophesied of it's destruction. (Luke 21:6) So, somewhere there must be an answer to the disciples response question of "when shall these things be?", and how it pertains to the destruction of that existing temple. (21:7)

(Matt. 24) covers more thoroughly the siege of Jerusalem which will occur at the end of the age. And (Mark 13) covers the same but not as thoroughly. (Luke) addresses briefly the Tribulation, (21:8-11) and the return of Christ. (21:25-28) But Luke also speaks of the coming destruction of 70 A.D. when the temple is destroyed. (Luke 21:20-24)

The warning given by Christ as to when the disciples should flee in (Matt) and (Mark) relates to the 'abomination of desolation' being set up in the temple. (Mark 13:14) (Matt. 24:15) And this relates specifically to the end time event of the Tribulation spoken of by Daniel. (Dan. 9:27)

But note that in (Luke 21:20) the warning given involves Jerusalem surrounded by armies. "And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh." There was no abomination set up in the Temple in 70 A.D. But Jerusalem was surrounded. And, as most are aware, Christians in Jerusalem at that time remembered this warning by Christ. God provided for them miraculously, having the Roman army retreat briefly. The Christians made the most of it and escaped to Pella. The Roman army came back and destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple.

Note also that the end result of these sieges of Jerusalem is different. In (Luke), the end result is the Jews are destroyed, killed, led away captive, till the "Times of the Gentiles" be fulfilled. But in (Matt) and (Mark), the end result is the return of Christ and deliverance. (Matt. 24:29-31) (Mark 13:24-27). (Luke) does present the Second Coming of Christ, (Luke 21:25-28), but only after the 'Times of the Gentiles' are fulfilled. (21:24)

It is for these reasons that I believe (Luke 21:20-24) speak to 70 A.D.

Quantrill

The Olivet Discourse contains no mention of the events of 70 AD.

The Olivet Discourse is Jesus answering a question.

Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?” Matthew 24:3


The Olivet Discourse therefore begins in verse 4, and continues through Chapter 25:46


Verse 1-2 of Matthew 24 is not the Olivet Discourse.

Then Jesus went out and departed from the temple, and His disciples came up to show Him the buildings of the temple. And Jesus said to them, “Do you not see all these things? Assuredly, I say to you, not one stone shall be left here upon another, that shall not be thrown down.” Matthew 24:1-2


This prediction refers to the events of 70 AD.



The rest of Matthew 24:4 - 25:46 is the Olivet Discourse.

The Language of Luke 21:20-24 concern the Prophecy that the Lord Jesus Himself spoke through the mouth of Zechariah.

The Olivet Discourse is teaching from Zechariah 14.

The Day of the Lord —- The Return of the King


Behold, the day of the LORD is coming,
And your spoil will be divided in your midst.
For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
The city shall be taken,
The houses rifled,
And the women ravished.
Half of the city shall go into captivity,
But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Then the LORD will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.
And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives,
Which faces Jerusalem on the east.
And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two,
From east to west,
Making a very large valley;
Half of the mountain shall move toward the north
And half of it toward the south.
Then you shall flee through My mountain valley,
For the mountain valley shall reach to Azal.
Yes, you shall flee
As you fled from the earthquake
In the days of Uzziah king of Judah.
Thus the LORD my God will come,
And all the saints with You.
It shall come to pass in that day
That there will be no light;
The lights will diminish.
Zechariah 14:1-6

• “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Matthew 24:29

It shall come to pass in that day that there will be no light;
The lights will diminish. Zechariah 14:6

• And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Thus the LORD my God will come, and all the saints with You. Zechariah 14:5





JLB

 

[Quantrill]

JLB

And I disagree as I explained in the opening post.

Quantrill

 

[JLB]

JLB

And I disagree as I explained in the opening post.

Quantrill

Behold, the day of the LORD is coming,
And your spoil will be divided in your midst.
For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
The city shall be taken,
The houses rifled,
And the women ravished.
Half of the city shall go into captivity,
But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zechariah 14:1-2


This event concerns the coming of the Lord at the end of the age.


The surrounding of Jerusalem by armies is what Jesus was referring to here in the second verse, in the Luke passage.

• For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;

This passage is what Jesus was referring to, in His teaching from the Mount of Olives, which is known as the Olivet Discourse.


It contains the language of the resurrection at the end of the age, with the saints, the dead in Christ returning with the Lord.

• Thus the LORD my God will come, and all the saints with You.

JLB

 

[Quantrill]

Behold, the day of the LORD is coming,
And your spoil will be divided in your midst.
For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
The city shall be taken,
The houses rifled,
And the women ravished.
Half of the city shall go into captivity,
But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zechariah 14:1-2


This event concerns the coming of the Lord at the end of the age.


The surrounding of Jerusalem by armies is what Jesus was referring to here in the second verse, in the Luke passage.

• For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;

This passage is what Jesus was referring to, in His teaching from the Mount of Olives, which is known as the Olivet Discourse.


It contains the language of the resurrection at the end of the age, with the saints, the dead in Christ returning with the Lord.

• Thus the LORD my God will come, and all the saints with You.

JLB

I don't disagree with what you said. If you read what I said you would see that. But, as I said, I believe (Luke 21:20-24) speaks to 70 A.D. and the destruction of Jerusalem, for the reasons given. Which you ignore.

Quantrill

 

[JLB]

I don't disagree with what you said. If you read what I said you would see that. But, as I said, I believe (Luke 21:20-24) speaks to 70 A.D. and the destruction of Jerusalem, for the reasons given. Which you ignore.

Quantrill

I'm not ignoring what you said, I am saying that the armies surrounding Jerusalem at the time of His coming refers to Zechariah 14.

JLB

 

[WIP]

I don't disagree with what you said. If you read what I said you would see that. But, as I said, I believe (Luke 21:20-24) speaks to 70 A.D. and the destruction of Jerusalem, for the reasons given. Which you ignore.

Quantrill

Why is it that when others have a differing viewpoint, do some people immediately jump to the conclusion that what they have expressed is being ignored or not seen? I see this quite often and it is irritating for it is just making an assumption without any basis in fact.

 

[Quantrill]

I'm not ignoring what you said, I am saying that the armies surrounding Jerusalem at the time of His coming refers to Zechariah 14.

JLB

Yes, you are ignoring what I said.

1.) I said Jesus specifically addressed the existing Temple. The disciples asked a question concerning that Temple. So that must be addressed in Jesus answer. It is addressed in (Luke 21:20-24).

a.) You said in response that (Matt. 24:1-2) was not part of the Olivet Discourse. Who cares? That means nothing. The
'Olivet Discourse' is not Scriptures title to what Jesus said. It is mans. It means nothing. Taking the question and answer in context is what is important. Not where you want to place the beginning of the Olivet Discourse.

2.) I said in (Matt) and (Mark) the warning given for when to flee Jerusalem is different then in (Luke). In (Matt) and (Mark) the warning is when you see the abomination of desolation set up in the Temple. No such abomination was ever in the Temple in 70 A.D. In (Luke) the warning to flee is when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies.

a.) You say (Zechariah 14) is what (Luke) is referring to. But, no such information is given in (Zech). All nations against Jerusalem doesn't have to mean 'surrounded. Plus, it doesn't matter. The point is the distinction between (Matt) and (Luke) when the people are to flee. In the last days, which you are addressing, the warning is when the abomination is set up in the Temple. It is not when you see Jerusalem surrounded.

3.) I said the end result of these two different sieges is totally different. For the one in (Matt) concerning the last days, it ends with the deliverence and return of Jesus Christ, and an end to the 'times of the Gentiles'. With the one in (Luke) which refers to 70 A.D., it ends in the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple, and captivity for the Jews with the continual progression of the 'times of the Gentiles'. Totally different outcomes.

a.) Which you never addressed.

See again post #(1).

Quantrill

 

[Quantrill]

Why is it that when others have a differing viewpoint, do some people immediately jump to the conclusion that what they have expressed is being ignored or not seen? I see this quite often and it is irritating for it is just making an assumption with any basis in fact.

See post #(10).

Quantrill

 

[for_his_glory]

Well, yes the Temple was destroyed in 70 A.D. But nothing in (Matt. 24:15) speaks to that, as you first said. There was no abomination of desolation set up in the Temple in 70 A.D. That, (Matt. 24:15), speaks to the future Temple that (Daniel) is addressing in (Dan. 9:27).

My point was that (Luke 21:20-24) does speak to the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in 70 A.D.

Quantrill

Prophecy does not give dates to the events that happen in the future as Jesus said it would be destroyed, but never said when. It's only history that we see the Temple was destroyed in 70AD

 

[for_his_glory]

Yes, you are ignoring what I said.

1.) I said Jesus specifically addressed the existing Temple. The disciples asked a question concerning that Temple. So that must be addressed in Jesus answer. It is addressed in (Luke 21:20-24).

a.) You said in response that (Matt. 24:1-2) was not part of the Olivet Discourse. Who cares? That means nothing. The
'Olivet Discourse' is not Scriptures title to what Jesus said. It is mans. It means nothing. Taking the question and answer in context is what is important. Not where you want to place the beginning of the Olivet Discourse.

2.) I said in (Matt) and (Mark) the warning given for when to flee Jerusalem is different then in (Luke). In (Matt) and (Mark) the warning is when you see the abomination of desolation set up in the Temple. No such abomination was ever in the Temple in 70 A.D. In (Luke) the warning to flee is when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies.

a.) You say (Zechariah 14) is what (Luke) is referring to. But, no such information is given in (Zech). All nations against Jerusalem doesn't have to mean 'surrounded. Plus, it doesn't matter. The point is the distinction between (Matt) and (Luke) when the people are to flee. In the last days, which you are addressing, the warning is when the abomination is set up in the Temple. It is not when you see Jerusalem surrounded.

3.) I said the end result of these two different sieges is totally different. For the one in (Matt) concerning the last days, it ends with the deliverence and return of Jesus Christ, and an end to the 'times of the Gentiles'. With the one in (Luke) which refers to 70 A.D., it ends in the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple, and captivity for the Jews with the continual progression of the 'times of the Gentiles'. Totally different outcomes.

a.) Which you never addressed.

See again post #(1).

Quantrill

Here is your answer in the full context about the armies that will surround Jerusalem on the last day when Christ Jesus plants His feet on the Mount of Olives.

Rev 20:7-10 Those that have rejected Christ that still remain on earth after the beast, false prophet and all the ruling leaders from every nation that followed after the beast are destroyed are those who are the numbering as the sand of the sea. These are the enemy of God that Satan uses to battle against the saints during the battle of Armageddon that are camped upon the breadth of the earth after Satan is released for a season, Psalms 2:7-10; 110; Ezekiel 36; 37; Rev 20:7-9. The saints are camped not only in Jerusalem the beloved city of God, but also throughout the breadth of the earth. It's only the 144,000 generational Jews that believe in Christ that have returned to Jerusalem. After the 1000 years are fulfilled Satan is set loosed for a season and goes out to deceive the nations as he gathers the enemies of Christ to battle against the saints as the numbering of unbelievers is like the sand of the sea. As the enemy surrounds the camp of the saints God sends fire down from heaven and destroys the enemy and Satan is cast into the lake of fire. Zechariah 14:1, 2; Luke 21:20 and Rev 16:16 mentions the battle of Armageddon when Christ and His army of angels return as Christ plants His feet on the mount of Olives for the final battle as Gog and Magog found in Ezekiel Chapter 38 is the battle of Rev 20:7-9.

 

[for_his_glory]

See post #(10).

Quantrill

No one is ignoring you, but acknowledging what you say by giving their response to what you said so this needs to end here of telling someone they are ignoring you.

 

[JLB]

1.) I said Jesus specifically addressed the existing Temple. The disciples asked a question concerning that Temple. So that must be addressed in Jesus answer. It is addressed in (Luke 21:20-24).

Brother I read what you wrote and have addressed it.

You haven’t addressed what I pointed out about the discussion of the Temple and it’s destruction. This dialog occurs in the Temple grounds as they are leaving the Temple on their way to the Mount of Olives.

Then Jesus went out and departed from the temple, and His disciples came up to show Him the buildings of the temple. And Jesus said to them, “Do you not see all these things? Assuredly, I say to you, not one stone shall be left here upon another, that shall not be thrown down.” Matthew 24:1-2

Again this dialog in verse 1&2 take place in the Temple area, and not at the Mount of Olives.


The Olivet Discourse begins in verse 3, and takes place on the Mount of Olives and pertains to His Coming and the end of the age.




Where we disagree is the timing.

Im saying the Olivet Discourse which includes Luke 21:20-24 is contextually hard-linked to the end of the age and the coming of the Lord, not the events of 70 AD.


“But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people. And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. Luke 21:20-24


This passage is directly associated with the coming of the Lord in which He returns with His saints and fights against the armies that He Himself has gathered to Jerusalem to personally fight against them. This is the Day of the Lord.


Behold, the day of the LORD is coming,
And your spoil will be divided in your midst.
For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
The city shall be taken,
The houses rifled,
And the women ravished.
Half of the city shall go into captivity,
But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Then the LORD will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.
Zechariah 14:1-3


This is not 70 AD.

This is the Day of the Lord at His coming, at the end of the age, which is what Jesus is teaching at the Olivet Discourse.

• And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

The times of the Gentiles being fulfilled marks the beginning of Daniels 70th week.



JLB

 

[JLB]

Which you never addressed.

If you would read my posts you would know that I have addressed it.


Matthew 24:1-2 is about the events of 70AD.


Do you agree or not?

 

[Quantrill]

Prophecy does not give dates to the events that happen in the future as Jesus said it would be destroyed, but never said when. It's only history that we see the Temple was destroyed in 70AD

That's right. And that time was what Jesus was alluding to in answering the disciples question. See. (Luke 21:20-24).

Quantrill

 

[Quantrill]

Here is your answer in the full context about the armies that will surround Jerusalem on the last day when Christ Jesus plants His feet on the Mount of Olives.

Rev 20:7-10 Those that have rejected Christ that still remain on earth after the beast, false prophet and all the ruling leaders from every nation that followed after the beast are destroyed are those who are the numbering as the sand of the sea. These are the enemy of God that Satan uses to battle against the saints during the battle of Armageddon that are camped upon the breadth of the earth after Satan is released for a season, Psalms 2:7-10; 110; Ezekiel 36; 37; Rev 20:7-9. The saints are camped not only in Jerusalem the beloved city of God, but also throughout the breadth of the earth. It's only the 144,000 generational Jews that believe in Christ that have returned to Jerusalem. After the 1000 years are fulfilled Satan is set loosed for a season and goes out to deceive the nations as he gathers the enemies of Christ to battle against the saints as the numbering of unbelievers is like the sand of the sea. As the enemy surrounds the camp of the saints God sends fire down from heaven and destroys the enemy and Satan is cast into the lake of fire. Zechariah 14:1, 2; Luke 21:20 and Rev 16:16 mentions the battle of Armageddon when Christ and His army of angels return as Christ plants His feet on the mount of Olives for the final battle as Gog and Magog found in Ezekiel Chapter 38 is the battle of Rev 20:7-9.

None of this answers to (Luke 21:20-24).

Quantrill

 

[JLB]

That's right. And that time was what Jesus was alluding to in answering the disciples question. See. (Luke 21:20-24).

Quantrill

It’s not right. Jesus alluded to the Temple destruction while the disciples were admiring the buildings of the Temple, in the Temple area.


Then Jesus went out and departed from the temple, and His disciples came up to show Him the buildings of the temple. And Jesus said to them, “Do you not see all these things? Assuredly, I say to you, not one stone shall be left here upon another, that shall not be thrown down.” Matthew 24:1-2


This is a reference to 70AD.


The Olivet Discourse which begins in verse 4, pertains to the coming of the Lord and the end of the age.


Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?” Matthew 24:3


Everything beyond this verse contextually pertains to the coming of the Lord, and the end of the age.



JLB

 

[Quantrill]

Brother I read what you wrote and have addressed it.

You haven’t addressed what I pointed out about the discussion of the Temple and it’s destruction. This dialog occurs in the Temple grounds as they are leaving the Temple on their way to the Mount of Olives.

Then Jesus went out and departed from the temple, and His disciples came up to show Him the buildings of the temple. And Jesus said to them, “Do you not see all these things? Assuredly, I say to you, not one stone shall be left here upon another, that shall not be thrown down.” Matthew 24:1-2

Again this dialog in verse 1&2 take place in the Temple area, and not at the Mount of Olives.


The Olivet Discourse begins in verse 3, and takes place on the Mount of Olives and pertains to His Coming and the end of the age.




Where we disagree is the timing.

Im saying the Olivet Discourse which includes Luke 21:20-24 is contextually hard-linked to the end of the age and the coming of the Lord, not the events of 70 AD.


“But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people. And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. Luke 21:20-24


This passage is directly associated with the coming of the Lord in which He returns with His saints and fights against the armies that He Himself has gathered to Jerusalem to personally fight against them. This is the Day of the Lord.


Behold, the day of the LORD is coming,
And your spoil will be divided in your midst.
For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
The city shall be taken,
The houses rifled,
And the women ravished.
Half of the city shall go into captivity,
But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Then the LORD will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.
Zechariah 14:1-3


This is not 70 AD.

This is the Day of the Lord at His coming, at the end of the age, which is what Jesus is teaching at the Olivet Discourse.

• And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

The times of the Gentiles being fulfilled marks the beginning of Daniels 70th week.



JLB

Again, the 'olivet discourse' is a mans term. It is not Scripture. What I have said is in context with Scripture.

(Luke 21:20-24) cannot be linked to the end of the age for the reasons I have given. Which you don't address. There is no abomination in the Temple. The Israelites are taken captive, not delivered. The 'times of the Gentiles' continues. (21:24)

Why do you ignore these differences?

The times of the Gentiles is not done till Christ's second coming.

Quantrill