Steps to Christ

[Randy]

I hope that you pray before you read and ask God to open your heart and mind.
Acts 11:27 Acts 13:1 Acts 15:32 1Corinthians 12:28-29 1Corinthians 14:29 1Corinthians 14:32 Ephesians 2:20. This is just a some in the New Testament. I hope after that you have pray with an open heart, that you can find the complete truth.

None of that is doctrinal revelation. Who wrote the book of Hebrews? Where are these so called prophets? When someone claims to be a prophet they are either preaching another faith or something that contradicts the teaching in the NT. The gospel is being preached. The canon is closed. The end has been made known -the book of Rev.

Paul learned by revelation which I believe.
Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.

 

[Pipiripi]

None of that is doctrinal revelation. Who wrote the book of Hebrews? Where are these so called prophets? When someone claims to be a prophet they are either preaching another faith or something that contradicts the teaching in the NT. The gospel is being preached. The canon is closed. The end has been made known -the book of Rev.

Paul learned by revelation which I believe.
Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.

Do you see, this is the people that the same Paul writings they used to defend their wrong beliefs. First of all go back in your Bible and see with who Paul is talking there, Gentiles or Jews. Second if you know what which person Paul is talking about foot and shadow, you will find the truth.
A question: "If you lost the reality what must you follow to come to the reality? I know this question is above your comprehensive. When the light cast to the reality, you will get the shadow. So if you lost the reality then you must go to the shadow. And the shadow brings you to the reality.

 

[Randy]

Do you see, this is the people that the same Paul writings they used to defend their wrong beliefs. First of all go back in your Bible and see with who Paul is talking there, Gentiles or Jews. Second if you know what which person Paul is talking about foot and shadow, you will find the truth.
A question: "If you lost the reality what must you follow to come to the reality? I know this question is above your comprehensive. When the light cast to the reality, you will get the shadow. So if you lost the reality then you must go to the shadow. And the shadow brings you to the reality.

Yes, that was way above me. Fortunately I have a very good understanding of the gospel message. Your message therefore doesn't concern me. The reality is found in Christ. Him I know. I have His Spirit in me and have no need for any so called prophet.

When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, 14having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross. 15And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross. Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.

 

[Pipiripi]

Yes, that was way above me. Fortunately I have a very good understanding of the gospel message. Your message therefore doesn't concern me. The reality is found in Christ. Him I know. I have His Spirit in me and have no need for any so called prophet.

When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, 14having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross. 15And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross. Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.

My friend this discussion is over
Here it is about books. Take and keep following Jesus the way that you have master yourself. Bless

 

[Hospes]

Pipiripi,

I do not know much in detail about SDA, so can I ask you about their beliefs? I do know SDA believes it's very important to meet as an assembly on Saturdays. Does SDA believe they are the only ones to go to heaven? Are there any other specific differences between them and a typical evangelical church? I am honestly asking; I am not trying to argue.

 

[Pipiripi]

Pipiripi,

I do not know much in detail about SDA, so can I ask you about their beliefs? I do know SDA believes it's very important to meet as an assembly on Saturdays. Does SDA believe they are the only ones to go to heaven? Are there any other specific differences between them and a typical evangelical church? I am honestly asking; I am not trying to argue.

Hi Hosper
No,the SDA church isn't the only church to go with Jesus when He returns soon. There are many people has died searching for the truth or just has accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, has been killed. They have died with the knowledge that they have. But this people that Jesus says in John 10:16, here you see that all in other churches that have heard Jesus voice and if they belong to Jesus, they will come out that church and enter in the church of Jesus Christ. This people are the true God's people. Revelation 12:17 and Revelation 14:12.
About SDA CHURCH many of them are in error by believing in the Trinity doctrine. But we are FEW that are following the Bible and our Pioneers teachings. Take a look in our way to trust only in the word of God.
end-times-prophecy.org if you have more questions let me know.

 

[Randy]

My friend this discussion is over
Here it is about books. Take and keep following Jesus the way that you have master yourself. Bless

That's fine with me because I have no plans to start keeping the sabbath as is in the law to meet a righteousness set forth by a false prophet in the 1800's. It is the Fathers will that Jesus loose none that the Father gives Him. If my righteousness before Him depended on me keeping the sabbath He therefore would have told me. And not just me. He wouldn't have waited almost 1800 years.
I have loved Jesus and believed in Him as far back as my memory goes. I have the Spirit of Christ in me. I do NOT keep the law of the sabbath as is written in the OT. He has purchased me for God by His blood. I do obey His commands. I didn't read of Him nor the Apostles making a point to command the saints to keep the sabbath for righteousness sake.

You are free to follow White. I will follow Jesus. And like Paul I don't back down from grace.

 

[Pipiripi]

That's fine with me because I have no plans to start keeping the sabbath as is in the law to meet a righteousness set forth by a false prophet in the 1800's. It is the Fathers will that Jesus loose none that the Father gives Him. If my righteousness before Him depended on me keeping the sabbath He therefore would have told me. And not just me. He wouldn't have waited almost 1800 years.
I have loved Jesus and believed in Him as far back as my memory goes. I have the Spirit of Christ in me. I do NOT keep the law of the sabbath as is written in the OT. He has purchased me for God by His blood. I do obey His commands. I didn't read of Him nor the Apostles making a point to command the saints to keep the sabbath for righteousness sake.

You are free to follow White. I will follow Jesus. And like Paul I don't back down from grace.

Maybe one God will open your eyes before it is to late my friend.

 

[Randy]

Maybe one God will open your eyes before it is to late my friend.

You fail to understand so let me enlighten you.
Jesus is in me and hears all my questions. And what He gives understanding in would be cohesive with what was from the beginning as we read in the NT. As what was from the beginning was given through Him.

I suggest if you belong to Him that you ask Him about the sabbath.

Since according to your own words you believe in other churches. Churches that are not SDA.

 

[Pipiripi]

You fail to understand so let me enlighten you.
Jesus is in me and hears all my questions. And what He gives understanding in would be cohesive with what was from the beginning as we read in the NT. As what was from the beginning was given through Him.

I suggest if you belong to Him that you ask Him about the sabbath.

Since according to your own words you believe in other churches. Churches that are not SDA.

I believe in the Bible. Ask yourselves if you are in this group of people. And let me know with yes or no.
Revelation 12:17
Revelation 14:12

 

[Randy]

I believe in the Bible. Ask yourselves if you are in this group of people. And let me know with yes or no.
Revelation 12:17
Revelation 14:12

yes, but apparently you seem unwilling to ask Jesus for a judgment. Why is that?
You don't seem to believe Paul.
I believe your church started in the 1800's.

 

[Pipiripi]

yes, but apparently you seem unwilling to ask Jesus for a judgment. Why is that?
You don't seem to believe Paul.
I believe your church started in the 1800's.

Go on Wikipedia and see how this church has come to existence. It isn't the church that safe you. It is the preaching of the whole truth, not half truth.

 

[Pipiripi]

Go on Wikipedia and see how this church has come to existence. It isn't the church that safe you. It is the preaching of the whole truth, not half truth.

I tried to make you see the content on the Bible with a spiritual mind, not with your carnal mind.

 

[Randy]

Go on Wikipedia and see how this church has come to existence. It isn't the church that safe you. It is the preaching of the whole truth, not half truth.

I know Jesus. I am not SDA.
I beginning to think you don't know Him.
The importance is in faith expressing itself through love. To love others as Jesus loved.
It seems your focus is on the sabbath not Jesus.

 

[Pipiripi]

I know Jesus. I am not SDA.
I beginning to think you don't know Him.
The importance is in faith expressing itself through love. To love others as Jesus loved.
It seems your focus is on the sabbath not Jesus.

My focus is completely on the Bible. Not man teaching. Read Revelation 14:12. Here is my focus.

 

[Randy]

My focus is completely on the Bible. Not man teaching. Read Revelation 14:12. Here is my focus.

My focus is on Jesus. I think if you read your bible you would see Paul like the other Apostles rebuked, "wickedness" and promoted righteousness.

I don't think you grasp how wide and long and deep is the love of God. Your focused on rules.
To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, 6and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father—to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.

 

[Pipiripi]

My focus is on Jesus. I think if you read your bible you would see Paul like the other Apostles rebuked, "wickedness" and promoted righteousness.

I don't think you grasp how wide and long and deep is the love of God. Your focused on rules.
To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, 6and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father—to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.

You are focusing on man teaching rather than Jesus. Read what Jesus said in Matthew 5:17-18. Revelation 12:17. Revelation 14:12. It is better to write the word Sabbath and you see it everywhere in the New Testament. Read what has happened that day on Sabbath. Begin by Acts.

 

[Randy]

You are focusing on man teaching rather than Jesus. Read what Jesus said in Matthew 5:17-18. Revelation 12:17. Revelation 14:12. It is better to write the word Sabbath and you see it everywhere in the New Testament. Read what has happened that day on Sabbath. Begin by Acts.

As Jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees before him. “Good teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

18“Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone. You know the commandments: ‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, you shall not defraud, honor your father and mother.’

 

[Randy]

You are focusing on man teaching rather than Jesus. Read what Jesus said in Matthew 5:17-18. Revelation 12:17. Revelation 14:12. It is better to write the word Sabbath and you see it everywhere in the New Testament. Read what has happened that day on Sabbath. Begin by Acts.

Its clear the Israelites had the Sabbath given to them for their sake. A day of rest from their labor. They had the law. None of that was able to save them. It wasn't preached to them stop keeping the sabbath and believe in Jesus. Nor was it preached to the gentiles start keeping the sabbath and believe in Jesus.

The Israelites were sanctified by their faith in Jesus just as the gentiles were. God made no distinction as the same Spirit was given to all.

We were purchased for God by the blood of Jesus. There is no need to "add" the sabbath for righteousness sake.

I have the Spirit of Christ in me. I don't keep the sabbath as is in the law. A absence of work with even meals prepared in advance.

I will not back down from grace.

Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.

 

[Hopeful]

There were no recorded prophets after Jesus that gave "revelation". Revelation was given through Jesus and the 12. The gospel is preached.

What about Philip's daughters? (Acts 21:9)
And the former prophesy stating..."And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:" (Acts 2:17) ?
They are some of the prophets after Jesus.