Shilohsfoal
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You believe everyone will need a church leader in thier right hand or in the forehead so that they can buy and sell?
Is this like a really rich church leader that he can buy everything thing for everyone?
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The Mark of the Beast (what it really is explained)
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Is this like a really rich church leader that he can buy everything thing for everyone?
Pipiripi
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Again, you are thinking with a carnal mind. You don't have a spiritual mind. That's why you cannot understand the scriptures. Only Jesus can open your mind for you to see the spiritual things.
Shilohsfoal
Member
Well, you said the mark of the beast is a church leader. God says it will be placed in the right hand or forehead and used for buying and selling.
You believe God has a carnel mind so he said it will be used for buying and selling,? I'm just repeating what God says, your the one saying God is wrong.
Pipiripi
Member
I told you that the book of Revelation is a book with many symbolically languages. If you take the word Mark literally, then you must take the beast coming out the see, and the woman sitting upon a beast roaming the world looking for kings also literal. You must read my statement with an open mind. Again you are continously thinking with your literal mind.
Shilohsfoal
Member
The book of revelations literally says what the woman is and those who are wise take it literally.
Im sure you wouldn't though.
Pipiripi
Member
Okay wise person, keep believing in all literal things. But me, I follow on God in Spirit and truth.
Shilohsfoal
Member
Maybe someday you will even believe his word.
Pipiripi
Member
The devil don't let you go here.
end-times-prophecy.org
Shilohsfoal
Member
I don't need to go there. I have a Bible I've pretty much memorized and if there's anything that needs brought to my attention, the holy spirit will Inform me of it.
This kind of description I have to reject vehemently.
The mark of the beast as described in revelation is an eternal loyalty to Satan, that locks the person so marked to eternal torment with Satan himself.
The problem with saying this exists now, is the idea we can judge, hunt out and reject those so marked, which divides, is condemning and unloving to the worst degree possible. In Christian communities, people use this concept to label believers and then persecute them because they hold "the mark" which splits people and removes repentance and forgiveness from the interaction, descending it rather into open conflict over issues that are not important.
One such idea was eternal security and once you have faith, no matter what happens later in life, you are eternally imprisoned in heaven. Love, our walk, witness, truth, growth in Christ, ministry, a God filled life, witnessing Jesus and His light to the world are just not relevant, and become labelled anti-Christ.
Paul takes the exact opposite approach, not judging fellow brothers and sisters in Christ, except over obvious sin, and leaving it to God to judge on the last day, where we all stand. Love loves, uplifts and encourages, because this is the path of life, and through forgiveness and repentance, the worst cases can be turned around. God bless you
Pipiripi
Member
The mark of the beast is all to do with WORSHIP my friend.
Revelation 14:6-12.
mattcandyc
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daninthelionsden
Member
Me thinks no amount of melted butter nor tartar sauce could improve the taste of that tiny bit of fake victuals.
Dorothy Mae
Member
Pretty good explanation. I think the beast and his mark are long past but it’s still a good explanation.
16 He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17 so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. Rev 13:16-17 The above passage is very clear, as clear can be. A physical mark put on people so they could not buy or sell anything unless they had the mark. There are aspects of spiritual marking as Paul says being circumcised in the heart rather than in the flesh when we as believers follow Christ unlike Israel who the males were circumcised in the flesh. In understanding scripture you need a reason to reinterpret a point which specifically addresses one point to make a point if one disagrees with this specific point, which is the mark is physical. The principle of the fight between Gods people and Gods enemies led by Satan, is this is no longer a hidden battle but open with open loyalties. Clearly we have never seen such a thing worldwide where one group are saved and the rest fighting literally against the Lord. God bless you |
christian1724
2024 Supporter
I think you were right to say that the mark (of the beast) cannot be forced upon you. I'd personally be less insistent that there will be no accompanying physical evidence.
Dorothy Mae
Member
As in the covid shots, most will
comply. They have a good marketing department and it be sold as doing something for others. Those who refuse will be called “selfish.” Will work like a charm, like last time.
Dorothy Mae
Member
But of course I have no worries as that already happened and is over.
"The Mark of The Beast"
As I read through this thread it appears to me as a whole there is little understanding of the “Mark of The Beast” with respect to the objectives of God during the tribulation.
It is said that nobody can understand any one apocalyptic prophecy (the seventeen found within Dan., & Rev.) without understanding how they all support and harmonize to form one big cohesive picture. The “Mark of the Beast” is just one peace of that puzzle.
First one should understand that the start of the Tribulation awaits God’s appointed time. Is does not depend on the actions of man, as many assume to spread the gospel to all the world, and then the end will come. It is true however, that the end will come once the gospel is heard throughout the whole world. But it will be by God’s doings, not man’s. God has also predetermined that the tribulation will only last 1335 literal days. (Dan. 12:9-13)
God will personally select 144,000, servant prophets, men, women of all ages, to speak the words He gives them to speak, they will be selected from all cultures and religions, and speak within their culture and religion that they must worship God the Father and Jesus Christ. (Rev. 7:1-3) The sealing of these prophets is when God removes their carnal nature and gives them a “un-fallen nature”, so that they can perform the the task that God will require of them during earths darkest hour under the most difficult times the world will have experienced. These are the “first fruits” (Rev.14:4) of the great harvest that will be gathered in during the tribulation. (Rev.7:9-14)
God has designed the events of the tribulation for judging the living, because at the predetermined time of His return all the living must have made the choice whether they worship Him, or Satan. There will only be two groups of people, those who have chosen to worship Satan and have received the “ Mark of the Beast, or those with the seal of God, who have chosen to worship God.
To get the attention of everyone and to force everyone to make a decision as to who they shall worship, God is going to end life as we know it in one day by sounding the first Trumpet, followed by three others in quick succession. These are literal world wide events. (Rev. 8:7-12) The four angles of Rev. 7:2,3, which were told not to “Harm the Land, sea or trees”, until…, are the same angles who blow the first four trumpets of Rev. 8, which bring destruction upon the earth. The tribulation begins with the opening of the fourth seal of (Rev. 6:8).
During the sounding of the first four trumpet judgments which will span a very short time span, and harming a third of the earth, and killing a fourth of earths population, not to mention the injured, (Rev.6:8) God will get the undivided attention of all. At this time the first of four messages delivered, by His, “Servants the Prophets/ 144,000”, is, “ Fear God, and give Him Glory, because the hour of His judgement has come.” (Rev.14:7)
It is because of these “Trumpet Judgements”, which has put the world into a survival mode, Which causes the, “beast coming up out of the sea, having ten horn, and seven heads, of Rev. 13: 1, to emerge. This will be a world wide crisis, political (ten horns) and religious (seven heads with blasphemous name) coalition, formed to stop the wrath of God, least the whole world be destroyed. This church/state coalition is later called, “Babylon”, in Rev., and Satan gives this “Beast” his power for 42 literal months. (Rev.13:3,4)
At the opening of the fifth trumpet, (also the first woe) two and a half literal years into the tribulation, after which time the living have had ample time to hear the gospel being preach by God’s, “Servants/prophets/144,000”, God will release Satan from the Spirit realm so that he and his demons can appear in the flesh before mankind. God is sending the wicked this delusion because they refused to believe His servants the prophets. (2Thess. 2:9-12) God gives them five months to torture anyone not having the, “Seal of God” in their foreheands (Rev. 9:5).
After the five literal months pass the Sixth trumpet sounds and God allows Satan and his demons to, “kill a third of mankind”, (Rev. 9: 13-21) This is where the, “Mark of the Beast,” fits into the big picture. It is Satan’s literal mark/ tattoo (666), on the right hand of the wicked who refuse to worship God, and Satan’s name will be a literal tattoo in the foreheads of his lieutenants. This will be required in order to buy and sell when food and provisions will be life threatening.
All of these events God has predetermined for the purpose of separating the wheat/righteous from the tares/wicked during the tribulation. The living during this time will past judgment upon themselves either by receiving the “Seal of God, or the Mark of the Beast,” as opposed to those who have died before this time will be judged out of the, “The books of Record/Deeds.
When the Seventh trumpet sounds, the heavens are opened and the “Ark of His Covenant /Ten Commandments,” is revealed within heavens temple. This brings God’s offer of salvation to and end. God reveals His Covenant to all who remain on earth. The righteous will be comforted, and the wicked will know why they alone will be recipients of God’s seven last plagues, or bowl judgements, which are to come. Poured out without mercy on those having the, “Mark of the Beast”. At the end of the seven last bowl judgements Christ returns to gather in the harvest of righteous individuals, and raises the righteous dead and takes them to heaven to rein with Him there for a thousand years.
I hope this thumb nail version of closing events as it encompasses the “Mark of The Beast”, brings into focus the bigger picture and a better understanding of God’s plans to rescue man from this world of sin.
As I read through this thread it appears to me as a whole there is little understanding of the “Mark of The Beast” with respect to the objectives of God during the tribulation.
It is said that nobody can understand any one apocalyptic prophecy (the seventeen found within Dan., & Rev.) without understanding how they all support and harmonize to form one big cohesive picture. The “Mark of the Beast” is just one peace of that puzzle.
First one should understand that the start of the Tribulation awaits God’s appointed time. Is does not depend on the actions of man, as many assume to spread the gospel to all the world, and then the end will come. It is true however, that the end will come once the gospel is heard throughout the whole world. But it will be by God’s doings, not man’s. God has also predetermined that the tribulation will only last 1335 literal days. (Dan. 12:9-13)
God will personally select 144,000, servant prophets, men, women of all ages, to speak the words He gives them to speak, they will be selected from all cultures and religions, and speak within their culture and religion that they must worship God the Father and Jesus Christ. (Rev. 7:1-3) The sealing of these prophets is when God removes their carnal nature and gives them a “un-fallen nature”, so that they can perform the the task that God will require of them during earths darkest hour under the most difficult times the world will have experienced. These are the “first fruits” (Rev.14:4) of the great harvest that will be gathered in during the tribulation. (Rev.7:9-14)
God has designed the events of the tribulation for judging the living, because at the predetermined time of His return all the living must have made the choice whether they worship Him, or Satan. There will only be two groups of people, those who have chosen to worship Satan and have received the “ Mark of the Beast, or those with the seal of God, who have chosen to worship God.
To get the attention of everyone and to force everyone to make a decision as to who they shall worship, God is going to end life as we know it in one day by sounding the first Trumpet, followed by three others in quick succession. These are literal world wide events. (Rev. 8:7-12) The four angles of Rev. 7:2,3, which were told not to “Harm the Land, sea or trees”, until…, are the same angles who blow the first four trumpets of Rev. 8, which bring destruction upon the earth. The tribulation begins with the opening of the fourth seal of (Rev. 6:8).
During the sounding of the first four trumpet judgments which will span a very short time span, and harming a third of the earth, and killing a fourth of earths population, not to mention the injured, (Rev.6:8) God will get the undivided attention of all. At this time the first of four messages delivered, by His, “Servants the Prophets/ 144,000”, is, “ Fear God, and give Him Glory, because the hour of His judgement has come.” (Rev.14:7)
It is because of these “Trumpet Judgements”, which has put the world into a survival mode, Which causes the, “beast coming up out of the sea, having ten horn, and seven heads, of Rev. 13: 1, to emerge. This will be a world wide crisis, political (ten horns) and religious (seven heads with blasphemous name) coalition, formed to stop the wrath of God, least the whole world be destroyed. This church/state coalition is later called, “Babylon”, in Rev., and Satan gives this “Beast” his power for 42 literal months. (Rev.13:3,4)
At the opening of the fifth trumpet, (also the first woe) two and a half literal years into the tribulation, after which time the living have had ample time to hear the gospel being preach by God’s, “Servants/prophets/144,000”, God will release Satan from the Spirit realm so that he and his demons can appear in the flesh before mankind. God is sending the wicked this delusion because they refused to believe His servants the prophets. (2Thess. 2:9-12) God gives them five months to torture anyone not having the, “Seal of God” in their foreheands (Rev. 9:5).
After the five literal months pass the Sixth trumpet sounds and God allows Satan and his demons to, “kill a third of mankind”, (Rev. 9: 13-21) This is where the, “Mark of the Beast,” fits into the big picture. It is Satan’s literal mark/ tattoo (666), on the right hand of the wicked who refuse to worship God, and Satan’s name will be a literal tattoo in the foreheads of his lieutenants. This will be required in order to buy and sell when food and provisions will be life threatening.
All of these events God has predetermined for the purpose of separating the wheat/righteous from the tares/wicked during the tribulation. The living during this time will past judgment upon themselves either by receiving the “Seal of God, or the Mark of the Beast,” as opposed to those who have died before this time will be judged out of the, “The books of Record/Deeds.
When the Seventh trumpet sounds, the heavens are opened and the “Ark of His Covenant /Ten Commandments,” is revealed within heavens temple. This brings God’s offer of salvation to and end. God reveals His Covenant to all who remain on earth. The righteous will be comforted, and the wicked will know why they alone will be recipients of God’s seven last plagues, or bowl judgements, which are to come. Poured out without mercy on those having the, “Mark of the Beast”. At the end of the seven last bowl judgements Christ returns to gather in the harvest of righteous individuals, and raises the righteous dead and takes them to heaven to rein with Him there for a thousand years.
I hope this thumb nail version of closing events as it encompasses the “Mark of The Beast”, brings into focus the bigger picture and a better understanding of God’s plans to rescue man from this world of sin.
Shilohsfoal
Member
Yet no one pays any attention to Jerusalem or the one who governs Jerusalem today.