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In reply to a post, a new member Prycejosh1987 brought up a good question:
WHO is the Father of Jesus?

Which brings up many points:
Is the 2nd person of the Trinity the same person as Jesus?
Does the 2nd person of the Trinity have a father?
Does Jesus have a father and who would he be?

Something to think about.
It would be interesting to know what you all think.
 
In reply to a post, a new member Prycejosh1987 brought up a good question:
WHO is the Father of Jesus?

Which brings up many points:
Is the 2nd person of the Trinity the same person as Jesus?
Does the 2nd person of the Trinity have a father?
Does Jesus have a father and who would he be?

Something to think about.
It would be interesting to know what you all think.

The trinity is a mystery and it is an attempt to fit all we can find in scripture about the Godhead into a coherent formula.
We know that there is God the Father, God the Son and God the Spirit.
Jesus is identified as God the Son by God the Father, see at his baptism, and the transfiguration where God himself identified Jesus as his Son.
 
God said "This is My Son in whom I am well pleased."
When Jesus drove the men out who were selling, He called the temple "My Father's house."
Jesus taught us how to pray "Our Father ..." so God is our father too, it Jesus is THE SON.
That is the only way I can see it. Many of God's mysteries have bot been revealed to us yet.
 
God said "This is My Son in whom I am well pleased."
When Jesus drove the men out who were selling, He called the temple "My Father's house."
Jesus taught us how to pray "Our Father ..." so God is our father too, it Jesus is THE SON.
That is the only way I can see it. Many of God's mysteries have bot been revealed to us yet.
Do you not agree that Jesus is God?
 
The trinity is a mystery and it is an attempt to fit all we can find in scripture about the Godhead into a coherent formula.
We know that there is God the Father, God the Son and God the Spirit.
Jesus is identified as God the Son by God the Father, see at his baptism, and the transfiguration where God himself identified Jesus as his Son.
This sounds like God the Son was created by the Father.
I don't think you mean this....
 
In reply to a post, a new member Prycejosh1987 brought up a good question:
WHO is the Father of Jesus?

Which brings up many points:
Is the 2nd person of the Trinity the same person as Jesus?
Does the 2nd person of the Trinity have a father?
Does Jesus have a father and who would he be?

Something to think about.
It would be interesting to know what you all think.
The second Person of the Trinity is Jesus, yes.
The Father is the second Person(who is Jesus) of the Trinity’s Father.
 
God said "This is My Son in whom I am well pleased."
When Jesus drove the men out who were selling, He called the temple "My Father's house."
Jesus taught us how to pray "Our Father ..." so God is our father too, it Jesus is THE SON.
That is the only way I can see it. Many of God's mysteries have bot been revealed to us yet.
So is God FATHER, of the Godhead, the Father of Jesus?
Is THE SON different from JESUS?
 
The second Person of the Trinity is Jesus, yes.
The Father is the second Person(who is Jesus) of the Trinity’s Father.
Are you saying that the 2nd person of the Trinity and Jesus are the same?
That means Jesus was created.
The 2nd person of the Trinity does not have a Father, or He would have been created.
 
Are you saying that the 2nd person of the Trinity and Jesus are the same?
That means Jesus was created.
The 2nd person of the Trinity does not have a Father, or He would have been created.
Jesus was not created. He became a man in His incarnation, but He was not created. He is God the Son clothed in flesh. By common confession, great is the mystery of godliness: He who was revealed in the flesh, Was vindicated in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Proclaimed among the nations, Believed on in the world, Taken up in glory.[1Timothy 3:16]

This is referring to Jesus, the second Person of the Trinity.
 
Hi. For me there is no Trinity God. God The Father God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.
When I have seen it Biblical, we I have found Two Godhead. Jehovah God and Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
The Holy Spirit is their own Spirit (breath/mind) their power.
Jesus is Son of God. He is the only BEGOTTEN Son of God. Jesus has come out of God.
 
Jesus was not created. He became a man in His incarnation, but He was not created. He is God the Son clothed in flesh. By common confession, great is the mystery of godliness: He who was revealed in the flesh, Was vindicated in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Proclaimed among the nations, Believed on in the world, Taken up in glory.[1Timothy 3:16]

This is referring to Jesus, the second Person of the Trinity.
I believe that the 2nd person of the Trinity or Godhead ALWAYS existed.

Jesus, as Jesus did not always exist.
He came into being as is explained in
Luke 1:31
31“And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall name Him Jesus.


This is the incarnation to which you are referring.
The 2nd person, which we now know to be The Son, always existed....
But Jesus is the incarnation of that Person of the Trinity, and comes into being 2,000 years ago.

Luke goes on to say that Jesus will be known as the Son of the Most High.
Luke 1:32

But the question comes up in
Luke 1:35
35The angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy Child shall be called the Son of God.

The Holy Spirit will come upon you.
The power of the Most High will overshadow you.


Is the Holy Spirit the Father
or is the Most High the Father?
I understand the Most High to be God Father.
AND, is there a difference?
 
I believe that the 2nd person of the Trinity or Godhead ALWAYS existed.

Jesus, as Jesus did not always exist.
He came into being as is explained in
Luke 1:31
31“And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall name Him Jesus.


This is the incarnation to which you are referring.
The 2nd person, which we now know to be The Son, always existed....
But Jesus is the incarnation of that Person of the Trinity, and comes into being 2,000 years ago.

Luke goes on to say that Jesus will be known as the Son of the Most High.
Luke 1:32

But the question comes up in
Luke 1:35
35The angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy Child shall be called the Son of God.

The Holy Spirit will come upon you.
The power of the Most High will overshadow you.


Is the Holy Spirit the Father
or is the Most High the Father?
I understand the Most High to be God Father.
AND, is there a difference?
Yes, because at that time an angel was talking to Mary. When Jesus was ready to come down as a baby, we don't have the exact date or time. Remember that Mary has keep secret many things that Jesus have done before He was popular.
Later I will write a little about the Holy Spirit according my knowledge from only the bible.
 
Yes, because at that time an angel was talking to Mary. When Jesus was ready to come down as a baby, we don't have the exact date or time. Remember that Mary has keep secret many things that Jesus have done before He was popular.
Later I will write a little about the Holy Spirit according my knowledge from only the bible.
God the Father is the most High and Jesus His Son. Remember how John describe Jesus when he begin his letters. The Holy Spirit is their power. He is everywhere.
 
God the Father is the most High and Jesus His Son. Remember how John describe Jesus when he begin his letters. The Holy Spirit is their power. He is everywhere.
Do you believe there was a time when the Son did NOT exist?
God the Father is the most High and Jesus His Son. Remember how John describe Jesus when he begin his letters. The Holy Spirit is their power. He is everywhere.
You said above that the Holy Spirit is a power and HE IS EVERYWHERE.
You referred to the Holy Spirit as a HE.
So you believe the Holy Spirit is a person?
I would say that from scripture, it certainly does say that the Holy Spirit is a person.
 
Do you believe there was a time when the Son did NOT exist?

You said above that the Holy Spirit is a power and HE IS EVERYWHERE.
You referred to the Holy Spirit as a HE.
So you believe the Holy Spirit is a person?
I would say that from scripture, it certainly does say that the Holy Spirit is a person.
The Holy Spirit is Jesus Himself. By His Holy Spirit Jesus can be anywhere. Everywhere.
 
The Holy Spirit is Jesus Himself. By His Holy Spirit Jesus can be anywhere. Everywhere.
What did Jesus mean when He told the Apostels to baptize in the name of
The Father
The Son
The Holy Spirit

That sounds like 3 distinct Persons to me.

Matthew 28:19
19“Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,


And how would you explain this verse??


John 14:15-17
“If you love me, you will keep my commandments. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.


Above Jesus says that the Father will send ANOTHER HELPER....the other helper is not Jesus, but a different helper.

Also, the Holy Spirit is referred to as a HE....
The Holy Spirit is a person.
 
Okay, let me begin with Matthew 28:19.
MATTHEW 29:19 EXPLAINED- THE FATHER GAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT TO CHRIST, SO THAT CHRIST COULD BAPTIZE US WITH HIS OWN SPIRIT (LIFE).
When we read verses on their own, taken out of context, all sorts of beliefs and doctrines can be made from them. But when we read scripture IN CONTEXT, taking the WHOLE council of God, then we can learn the TRUTH. So what is the truth concerning Matthew 28:19? When you read it in context, using scripture to interpret scripture, then you see the clear truth, and it is beautiful!
What is the reason that Christ instructed the disciples to "baptize all nations in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit"? (Matthew 28:19). Let's read Matthew 28:18-20 in context and you will see some interesting points:
Matthew 28:18-20 ...'And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, ALL POWER IS GIVEN TO UNTO ME in heaven and in earth. Go ye THEREFORE, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I AM WITH YOU ALWAYS, even unto the end of the world. Amen'.
Did you notice the connection? Let's take note of what Jesus said. He said that "ALL PPOWER is "GIVEN" to Him. And what did He say next? "THEREFORE ... go and baptize in the name of ..." what does the word "therefore" mean? It means that what is said next is BASED ON what was said before. So the baptizing in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, is based on Jesus " receiving ALL POWER." Do you see that? Now what is that 'POWER' which Jesus was to receive? Well, Jesus finishes Matthew 28 with the words ... "I AM WITH YOU ALWAYS." Interesting! So let us see what this 'power' is that Jesus RECEIVED. What did Jesus tell the disciples before He ascended to heaven?
Luke 24:49
Acts 1:4-5
Do you see what the 'POWER' and 'promise of the Father is? It is the Holy Spirit, which the disciples were to wait for the 'outpouring' of in Jerusalem. Peter even furnishes us with very clear information as to what happened and what was given at Pentecost. Acts 2:32-33.

Let's go to John 14:15-17.
THE COMFORTER
Nearly all denominations teach only the first part of the promise of the Comforter, which is John 14:16-17. But what does the full promise of John 14:16-23 say about who our comforter is? Our Lord Jesus Christ expressly said that He Himself would come to us (John 14:18) and be in us (John 14:20), for He would manifest Himself to us (John 14:21-22). See the full promise for yourself:
John 14:16-23
Did Christ proclaim that He Himself is our Comforter? Any Biblical question must be answered with Biblical definitions, not human traditions for all of the Comforter passages from John chapter 14 to chapter 16:
(Question) John 14:16 - Who is the "Comforter" (Greek: parakletos)?
(Answer) - 1John 2:1..'My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate (Greek: parakletos) wit the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:'
"Let them link up
with one another and with Christ.
Now take a look at Jesus on words ...John14:10 ...'Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but Father that dwelleth in me. he doeth the works.' You see? Jesus Christ and the Father. And it is THE FATHER that dwells in Jesus and in us. In other words, the Spirit of the Father that dwells in us.

Ask more questions, I let the Bible answered you my friend.
 
In reply to a post, a new member Prycejosh1987 brought up a good question:
WHO is the Father of Jesus?

Which brings up many points:
Is the 2nd person of the Trinity the same person as Jesus?
Does the 2nd person of the Trinity have a father?
Does Jesus have a father and who would he be?

Something to think about.
It would be interesting to know what you all think.

Jesus’ Father is God the Father.


Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, Ephesians 1:3




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