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It doesn't say, "He that is not baptized is condemned." Rather it says "He that believeth not is condemned."
You say it's implied, but the Bible doesn't deal with implications. The baptism that saves is the baptism of the Spirit. You actually have to add to the Word of God to make it say...
Re: Are you confident that, what you believe will guarantee your eternal destination
If you want to pick out one verse, you might be able to read into it that a believer can lose it all by becoming unfaithful. It's better if you look a little deeper rather than toss out the Promises on such...
Re: Are you confident that, what you believe will guarantee your eternal destination
I've known a lot of strong believers in my life and many, if not all, have gone through some deep and dark valleys. That in no way suggests a person loses their salvation. There are hills and valleys we...
Re: Are you confident that, what you believe will guarantee your eternal destination
Amen. Those who have been undergone an "operation of God" are in no doubt of their salvation. :thumbsup
Ezekiel 36:26 "A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will...
Re: Are you confident that, what you believe will guarantee your eternal destination
Being part of the "community" does not mean one is born again of God.
The Holy Spirit is not a principle and neither is satan. God's Spirit is not a guiding principle, it is the Spirit of Christ that...
Re: Are you confident that, what you believe will guarantee your eternal destination
They are not the same words, yet you stand by them. The words "in prayer" was used as an example...not a part of the definition. To hold a grudge is totally different than to sigh or murmer in discontent...
Re: Are you confident that, what you believe will guarantee your eternal destination
Your snideness aside....... Paul was not speaking of his eternal salvation. We don't "work out" our eternal salvation...that is a gift of God when we believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Fear and trembling...
Re: Are you confident that, what you believe will guarantee your eternal destination
It's a huge leap to claim someone has lost their salvation because they backslide, or even went into secular work. One's salvation can not be judged on such flimsy evidence. Paul spoke of being deserted...
Re: Are you confident that, what you believe will guarantee your eternal destination
Forsaken the right way...just like those who followed after Jesus for a time and then left. That they left proves they were not of us to begin with....so says John.
They speak great sweilling words of...
Re: Are you confident that, what you believe will guarantee your eternal destination
I said not one word about "sighing during prayer"....I didn't even imply sighing during prayer. You made that huge leap on your own. And you're comparing a Hebrew word "natar" which is different from the...
God is longsuffering...not willing that any should perish. He calls for men to repent. Some might call that a work, but God demands it so I'll go with God on this one.
2 Peter 3:9 - "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to...
God, Himself, says man has rejected Him.
1 Samuel 8:7 - "And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them."
1 Samuel 10:19 - "And ye have this...
You feel the verses I posted are "muddying" the waters? I don't believe they are. They aren't just saying "willingly" because it sounds better that way. People actually do freely offer themselves to God. They do, indeed, freely seek to know our Holy God. Down through the ages, men have...
Yes, men do indeed do such things when they're in dire straits. Look at the Donner party.
Israel was experiencing God's wrath, and this was literally fulfilled when Jerusalem was besieged by the Romans.
This example has nothing to do with whether man has a free will or not.
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