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    What Does Jesus Say About A Saved Person Becoming Unsaved ?

    In the "Loving others" as "Jesus loved" is always a continuous goal of growth in my mind. Seasoning does come with age. The gift is "forever" as in appointed to eternal life by Gods will. Born from above by the Spirit. If not forever than Jesus was mistaken. He uses truth as we know. And I...
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    What Does Jesus Say About A Saved Person Becoming Unsaved ?

    Doesn't matter it's what God states. In Christ I am Holy and blameless. I consider myself still working towards perfection. Love does no harm to one's neighbor and fulfills all the law. I keep the commandments and live like one who believes in Christ. I know Him and He knows me.
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    What Does Jesus Say About A Saved Person Becoming Unsaved ?

    So I guess He stated this as well about those same people. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. This...
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    What Does Jesus Say About A Saved Person Becoming Unsaved ?

    Which part? God remains faithful Or God cannot disown Himself?
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    What Does Jesus Say About A Saved Person Becoming Unsaved ?

    Jesus was from above. He is the mark of perfection. I consider myself working toward that perfection. I have the Spirit of Christ in me and live as one believing in Him. The only thing you can see is that you don't know me not that I'm a sinner. God gives His Holy Spirit to those who love and...
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    What Does Jesus Say About A Saved Person Becoming Unsaved ?

    I'm clean which is by grace not works nor would any works make me any cleaner. Washed and sanctified by the Spirit that God willed to live in me forever. Jesus is the mark of perfection. I'm not nearly there. But I live like a believer. It's "Forever" And I will ask the Father, and he will...
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    What Does Jesus Say About A Saved Person Becoming Unsaved ?

    I am confident that for me I will. You would have to disown Christ to lose Him. (One's choice not His). If one has the Spirit of Christ in them how could they not know He lives? 2 Timothy 2:13 English Standard Version 13 if we are faithless, he remains faithful— for he cannot deny (disown)...
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    What Does Jesus Say About A Saved Person Becoming Unsaved ?

    Lots of words yet no scripture given with your clear understanding. John wrote those born of God , can not, continue to sin. I quoted Him. They were not my words. I stated it's not wise to teach OSAS. Warnings are given to ALL. In regard to myself I am convinced I will remain faithful.
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    What Does Jesus Say About A Saved Person Becoming Unsaved ?

    I know this I can never unknow what I know in regard to my walk with the Lord. As in loose my faith.
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    What Does Jesus Say About A Saved Person Becoming Unsaved ?

    I say lets stay with the NT. Does this apply to Christians? You know the commandments: 'Do not commit adultery,' 'Do not murder,' 'Do not steal,' 'Do not bear false witness,' 'Do not defraud,' 'Honor your father and your mother. ' Warnings are given to ALL.
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    What Does Jesus Say About A Saved Person Becoming Unsaved ?

    Why would it matter? Calvinists churches would state so but we are looking at what the NT states. I have never attended any church that holds to OSAS. In my walk I am convinced I have been appointed to eternal life and will finish that race and that with God's involvement along with my will...
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    What Does Jesus Say About A Saved Person Becoming Unsaved ?

    Encouragement is maintained to remain faithful to Christ. In my walk I am convinced that will be so. I don't think it is wise to preach once saved always saved despite this theological discussion. Warnings are given through out the NT to saints. But what one calls themselves and what one is can...
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    What Does Jesus Say About A Saved Person Becoming Unsaved ?

    You disagree with what John wrote not me. We are no longer slaves to sin as we have been set free. Those who continue to sin are slaves to sin which testifies they have not been set free by the Son. Have you not read the one in us is greater than the one in the world? Have you not read "No one...
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    What Does Jesus Say About A Saved Person Becoming Unsaved ?

    Of course. A good tree doesn't bear bad fruit.
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    What Does Jesus Say About A Saved Person Becoming Unsaved ?

    The "want to sin" is gone. I have free will but choose not to. I can relate to "John's" writings. Strong language "can not" because of the Spirit of God that lives in us. A new creation. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work. No one who is born of God will continue...
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    What Does Jesus Say About A Saved Person Becoming Unsaved ?

    1 john 2:4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person.
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    What Does Jesus Say About A Saved Person Becoming Unsaved ?

    And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. He is not backing down from grace. As in those who came to trouble the Galatians will the need to obey the law of Moses. He's teaching the newly minted in the meaning of the new message of life found in...
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    What Does Jesus Say About A Saved Person Becoming Unsaved ?

    Our will is involved. We wouldn't resist after coming to know the Lord by that grace. We would endure to the end by Gods will in Christ. God is able to keep us from falling as already stated by scripture. Jude 24-25 New International Version Doxology To him who is able to keep you from...
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    What Does Jesus Say About A Saved Person Becoming Unsaved ?

    But as surely as God is faithful, our message to you is not “Yes” and “No.” 19For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who was preached among you by us—by me and Silas c and Timothy—was not “Yes” and “No,” but in him it has always been “Yes.” 20For no matter how many promises God has made, they are...
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    What Does Jesus Say About A Saved Person Becoming Unsaved ?

    Do you understand grace? You seem to have a boatload of requirements “For many are invited, but few are chosen.” children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God. God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don’t you know what Scripture...
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