Heidi said:
Thye Muslims also call their teachings "Holy" tradition. So do you think the Muslims are right when they claim that Jesus is not the Son of God because it's their "holy" tradition to claim that? :o
Muslims do not call their beliefs that. They're beliefs are based on the Quran, thus are Quranic.
So sorry, but people's traditions don't determine what's true or false. Only God's word does. Or don't the catholics believe or know where to find the Word of God? :o
Heidi, you seemed to be confused on a few things here.
Firstly, Holy Tradition isn't the traditions of men. Holy Tradition is what we call the word of God, as taught by the apostles.
The apostles didn't teach the faith from the bible (although they would reference the OT obviously), because Christianity hadn't been written about yet. Think about this- when Paul went throughout the word proclaiming the Gospel, whose Gospel was he teaching from? Matthew, Mark, Luke, John? Those hadn't been written. When he was giving instructions, whose epistles was he reading? They weren't written. What was Luke teaching from as he was writing Acts?
The scriptures of the NT came much later on. The Gospels were written after the apostles were dead. Yet- they taught the word of God, but none of it was organized into any scriptures. This collective teaching is what we call "Holy Tradition", because it was the preserved teachings of the aposltes. The Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were originally purely Holy Tradition, but later were manifested into scripture.
So if John the Baptist was sinless, then how did he get that way since all humans are born in sin? Are you claiming that John the Baptist wasn't a human being but instead, the Son of God? Or are you now claiming that Jesus was not the firstborn of God?Or are you so confused you don't know what you're claiming? :roll:
I believe you are confused about the concept that being preserved from sin requires you to be conceived by the Holy Spirit.
Not all humans are born into original sin, it is something that is passed down from their parents. Even if Mary sinned, God would still need to block her from passing it onto Jesus. However, we believe that God can preserve anyone from original sin He wants.
John the Baptist was not the Son of God, because he had two human parents. John the Baptist was just kept from receiving original sin from his parents, just as Mary was
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So once again, one lie leads to another and another and another and another until eventually the whole word of God is contradicted which is the direction in which you are now headed. :x
I haven't lied once, nor have I contradicted scripture.