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You replied to Post #98 with a "Sad" icon. Likely you forgot what began the discussion about "logic":
The most logical conclusion from Genesis 1:26-27 and Psalm 8:5 is that the One God, Yahweh, God the Father invited the Angels to participate in the creation of man in God and the Angels image...
Logic isn't shallow, it is either sound or unsound.
To ignore the usage of the Plural "Us" "Our" which imply a plurality of Persons, you put Genesis 1:26-27 in "lower than the angels" Psalm 8:3-6 box.
So I ask: "what relevancy does 'made lower to the angels' have with the Plural pronouns in...
Man being made a little lower than the angels has no relevancy to the image of God in man. If it did (as you imply), then God's image and likeness are "lower than the angels."
That is your reasoning. I asked you to defend it.
26 Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."
27 So God created man in His own image; in the...
I believe that Genesis 1:26-27 is the One God, Yahweh, God the Father inviting the Angels to participate in the creation of man. Psalm 8:5 also confirms this.-TrevorL
The conclusion of your statement requires the premise "image and likeness" and "nature" are the same. Therefore, it is YOU who...
That is inaccurate. They are "Christian" according to the "Handbook of Denominations in the United States" by Mead, Hill and Atwood.
The definition of "cult" depends on the user, most unbelievers would label all of us as belonging to a cult.
I agree no one is saved by crying out to the Father...
Unsound, comparing "apples and oranges".
Just as apples are not oranges, so also "nature" is not "image and likeness"
"Lower than the angels" is a reference to nature, physical being = apples; Angels are "Elohim" spirit therefore above physical man whose nature is made of dust.
Image and...
I don't think he is doing that. He may be a "Unitarian". While some elements are similar, he doesn't agree with JWs or Islam. It would be a good feature if posters were identified by denomination, so we wouldn't get the wrong idea about a poster. I'm basically a Free will Reformed Baptist, with...
Genesis says man is made in the image and likeness of God, not angels. Psalm 8:5 doesn't concern the image and likeness of God, it says man was made LOWER than the angels. Therefore, we must deploy elementary logic to solve the riddle.
God's image and likeness is ABOVE angels, therefore the...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13400671/archaeological-evidence-Bible-true.html
Tip of the iceberg. The proof scripture is 100% reliable history is an overwhelming mass of irrefutable evidence.
That was my precise point. The metaphysics of the past are simply wrong according to modern scientific observations of the nature of reality and substance. It can be argued science is finally catching up to the Bible's correct views.
I apologize for lacking the time to discuss much more than...
That understanding of "the only begotten of the Father" ignores the context. John just informed us God has many "children", therefore Jesus can't be "only begotten" in a human sense.
Moreover, it is the Holy Spirit who caused Mary to conceive, but John focuses on the Father and says Jesus is...
I agree both "Son of Man" and "Son of God" titles refer to His human nature via the virgin birth caused by God's Holy Spirit.
BUT
"Son of God" must ALSO have reference to Jesus' nature BEFORE the virgin birth, because John writes:
And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld...
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But scripture demands we not philosophize, that we confine ourselves to the teaching of Christ:
8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.
9 For in Him...
Not mine, its the teaching of Holy Scripture. The Son of Man was made lower than the angels, the Son of God created all things and therefore is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.
That's confused. Scripture says the man Jesus was made lower than the angels, and died for our sins. Scripture also says Jesus created all things, and in Him all things consist.
Scripture is always true, therefore both statements about Jesus are correct and your refusal to accept one of them...
Your logic is confused. The subject is different. Jesus as a man is made lower than the angels to suffer death at Calvary. Colossians is speaking about Jesus as creator of all things, which is true only of God.
That ignores God's "breath of life" is not made of dust, it is a portion of God's Spirit that brings man into being, animates the entire being of man, body and soul.
Perhaps you heard of Aramaic Translations the Jews used in Christ's day. Because Hebrew had become somewhat unclear to many...
Paul is speaking about Jesus, not "what is man". According to John 1:1-3 all things were created by Jesus:
16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him...
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