I don't want to preach people about political polarizing issues

[iwll42]

So, lately, the West is propaganda machine. Pushing everyone into their way of thinking.
Like, their waves spread too fast in world, that it's become world == what happens in USA.

So, any political issue in USA, automatically become political issue in all other countries. And then all smaller ones pick up like a sheep.

Example of it is LGBT. Everyone needs to accept their rights, small governments in countries need to explicitly state their stance on issue, most of time, they comply, as that's not much of what they're dealing in their own country, but have to in order to stay in that global trade.

So, now it's offensive speech if I say Bible says LGBT is sin.
And it's offensive speech in all countries in world. But reality is, that it may be issue in USA, and EU, but everyone need to follow their lead, and thus, if I'm not up to date to latest political polarizations, I can end up offending someone , or saying offensive and hateful speech ?

If I say anything against LGBT, then it's homophobic, and I'm wrong, and hated by people. So in that case, they've already decided for judgment upon themselves, I don't have to preach them way of Life. They probably heard it, and went against it.

How is this any different than Germany nazis ?
USA waves their flags everywhere, they're proud to be patriots, and it's expected from Americans.

But if any other country is patriotic, they're hateful, offensive and threaten peace in world. And thus they're bombarded.

Like, Serbia, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Iraq, Israels.

They've fought to separate Serbians from their own land, by making artificial state Kosovo.
Now, they're doing it same with Israel and Palestinian. Because USA want military there so they can invade Russia.

Same reason why Putin invaded Ukraine, because NATO was getting closer and closer to Russia even if they've promised not to. So, wait, this is not offensive speech, I'm not supporting Russia, but that doesn't mean I need to automatically support Ukraine or else I'm hateful ? How those political polarization spread like wildfire so quickly in countries that have nothing to do with USA ?


This is the beast, imperial force, in world, that fights for resources of whole world to control it. And it's influence is great upon the world. Just like Revelation said "and the whole world that followed the beast was amazed".

Big Tech can basically cancel your life by banning your account, which holds all your keys, and you don't have much options, as everybody else uses those services. If you want to work in civilized society.

 

[Hopeful 2]

So, lately, the West is propaganda machine. Pushing everyone into their way of thinking.
Like, their waves spread too fast in world, that it's become world == what happens in USA.

So, any political issue in USA, automatically become political issue in all other countries. And then all smaller ones pick up like a sheep.

Example of it is LGBT. Everyone needs to accept their rights, small governments in countries need to explicitly state their stance on issue, most of time, they comply, as that's not much of what they're dealing in their own country, but have to in order to stay in that global trade.

So, now it's offensive speech if I say Bible says LGBT is sin.
And it's offensive speech in all countries in world. But reality is, that it may be issue in USA, and EU, but everyone need to follow their lead, and thus, if I'm not up to date to latest political polarizations, I can end up offending someone , or saying offensive and hateful speech ?

If I say anything against LGBT, then it's homophobic, and I'm wrong, and hated by people. So in that case, they've already decided for judgment upon themselves, I don't have to preach them way of Life. They probably heard it, and went against it.

How is this any different than Germany nazis ?
USA waves their flags everywhere, they're proud to be patriots, and it's expected from Americans.

But if any other country is patriotic, they're hateful, offensive and threaten peace in world. And thus they're bombarded.

Like, Serbia, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Iraq, Israels.

They've fought to separate Serbians from their own land, by making artificial state Kosovo.
Now, they're doing it same with Israel and Palestinian. Because USA want military there so they can invade Russia.

Same reason why Putin invaded Ukraine, because NATO was getting closer and closer to Russia even if they've promised not to. So, wait, this is not offensive speech, I'm not supporting Russia, but that doesn't mean I need to automatically support Ukraine or else I'm hateful ? How those political polarization spread like wildfire so quickly in countries that have nothing to do with USA ?


This is the beast, imperial force, in world, that fights for resources of whole world to control it. And it's influence is great upon the world. Just like Revelation said "and the whole world that followed the beast was amazed".

Big Tech can basically cancel your life by banning your account, which holds all your keys, and you don't have much options, as everybody else uses those services. If you want to work in civilized society.

Guess what ?
You can live without Big Tech !!!!!
Preach the love of God !
Those interested in that love will find out soon enough how Jesus feels about your topics of concern.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

So, lately, the West is propaganda machine. Pushing everyone into their way of thinking.
Like, their waves spread too fast in world, that it's become world == what happens in USA.

So, any political issue in USA, automatically become political issue in all other countries. And then all smaller ones pick up like a sheep.

Example of it is LGBT. Everyone needs to accept their rights, small governments in countries need to explicitly state their stance on issue, most of time, they comply, as that's not much of what they're dealing in their own country, but have to in order to stay in that global trade.

So, now it's offensive speech if I say Bible says LGBT is sin.
And it's offensive speech in all countries in world. But reality is, that it may be issue in USA, and EU, but everyone need to follow their lead, and thus, if I'm not up to date to latest political polarizations, I can end up offending someone , or saying offensive and hateful speech ?

If I say anything against LGBT, then it's homophobic, and I'm wrong, and hated by people. So in that case, they've already decided for judgment upon themselves, I don't have to preach them way of Life. They probably heard it, and went against it.

How is this any different than Germany nazis ?
USA waves their flags everywhere, they're proud to be patriots, and it's expected from Americans.

But if any other country is patriotic, they're hateful, offensive and threaten peace in world. And thus they're bombarded.

Like, Serbia, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Iraq, Israels.

They've fought to separate Serbians from their own land, by making artificial state Kosovo.
Now, they're doing it same with Israel and Palestinian. Because USA want military there so they can invade Russia.

Same reason why Putin invaded Ukraine, because NATO was getting closer and closer to Russia even if they've promised not to. So, wait, this is not offensive speech, I'm not supporting Russia, but that doesn't mean I need to automatically support Ukraine or else I'm hateful ? How those political polarization spread like wildfire so quickly in countries that have nothing to do with USA ?


This is the beast, imperial force, in world, that fights for resources of whole world to control it. And it's influence is great upon the world. Just like Revelation said "and the whole world that followed the beast was amazed".

Big Tech can basically cancel your life by banning your account, which holds all your keys, and you don't have much options, as everybody else uses those services. If you want to work in civilized society.

Turn off social media, delete the apps from your phone. This is psychological warfare, the devil aims to demoralize and desensitize you with the bombardment of bad news. America and the western civilization at large are under God's judgement for their apostasy, all these chaos and polarization are manifestation of the zeitgeist, the spirit of the age. Preach what you must, if they don't listen, shake the dust off your shoes and move on.

 

[1pet2_9]

The real Jesus is a polarizing issue. People have made up their minds, they will chase out anyone inconsistent with their own little web of lies they have woven for themselves. If you tip-toe around political polarizing issues, you are more likely to tip-toe around preaching Jesus, too. Don't want to offend anybody. "You won't reach anybody for Jesus by offending them." Thing is, that's the way it is done.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

The real Jesus is a polarizing issue. People have made up their minds, they will chase out anyone inconsistent with their own little web of lies they have woven for themselves. If you tip-toe around political polarizing issues, you are more likely to tip-toe around preaching Jesus, too. Don't want to offend anybody. "You won't reach anybody for Jesus by offending them." Thing is, that's the way it is done.

Yes, God has hardened their hearts, He has sent them a strong delusion, as they choose to pursue their own idols. Let them be. Don't cast pearl to swines.

 

[Who Me]

So, lately, the West is propaganda machine

But if any other country is patriotic, they're hateful, offensive and threaten peace in world. And thus they're bombarded.

Like, Serbia, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Iraq, Israels.

This is a very simplistic view of the world, of history and of politics.
May I suggest actually reading a few history books and yes look for those that take an opposing view to the standard Western view of history.

May I also suggest investigating how people have been treated in some of those bastions of freedom and open reporting l8ke North Korea, Afghanistan, North Vietnam etc etc.

 

[Josef]

Hey All,
Who invaded whom?

Ukraine did not just roll over and take it like Putin expected. Good on them. Just think if someone were to enter your home uninvited. If you had the capability to stop them, wouldn't you?

Resistance is never futile.

Keep walking everybody.
May God bless,
Taz

 

[GodsGrace]

Turn off social media, delete the apps from your phone. This is psychological warfare, the devil aims to demoralize and desensitize you with the bombardment of bad news. America and the western civilization at large are under God's judgement for their apostasy, all these chaos and polarization are manifestation of the zeitgeist, the spirit of the age. Preach what you must, if they don't listen, shake the dust off your shoes and move on.

This is for you and for Hopeful 2

Your method of dealing with the problem is incredibly naiive.

It reminds me of the 70's and even before and even after.
Sexual matter all over the place.
I once asked a magazine store owner (these stores don't exist anymore) to remove a copy of Playboy off the counter by the cash register because it was offensive to many. He said WHO? No one has complained but you.

TV went the same way. When conservatives complained, this is the answer they received from liberals:
TURN THE TV OFF.

Well, we are all witnesses of how VERY WELL that advice has worked.

 

[jasonc]

This is for you and for Hopeful 2

Your method of dealing with the problem is incredibly naiive.

It reminds me of the 70's and even before and even after.
Sexual matter all over the place.
I once asked a magazine store owner (these stores don't exist anymore) to remove a copy of Playboy off the counter by the cash register because it was offensive to many. He said WHO? No one has complained but you.

TV went the same way. When conservatives complained, this is the answer they received from liberals:
TURN THE TV OFF.

Well, we are all witnesses of how VERY WELL that advice has worked.

Newsstands . Gotta look for them .one was local and open until the last decade irc.

 

[GodsGrace]

Newsstands . Gotta look for them .one was local and open until the last decade irc.

We still have them here.
For now.

 

[jasonc]

We still have them here.
For now.

In English ? Lol.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

This is for you and for Hopeful 2

Your method of dealing with the problem is incredibly naiive.

It reminds me of the 70's and even before and even after.
Sexual matter all over the place.
I once asked a magazine store owner (these stores don't exist anymore) to remove a copy of Playboy off the counter by the cash register because it was offensive to many. He said WHO? No one has complained but you.

TV went the same way. When conservatives complained, this is the answer they received from liberals:
TURN THE TV OFF.

Well, we are all witnesses of how VERY WELL that advice has worked.

What's really naive is to assume that this perversion of culture can be reversed, the christendom can be revived. Jesus taught that we are salt of the earth, one critical function of salt is food preservation, in pastor Jeffress's word, "delay the decay". It is prophecied that he world goes down to hell in a hand basket, slowly but surely, gradually and then suddenly. What we do is but delay this downward spiral, buying some time to spread the gospel and save as many souls as possible from the broad way to hell.

In fact, we did fight back in response to the "sexual matter", it was known as the "purity culture", which is essentially a neopuritanism that makes any sexual matter taboo, but with a twist - marriage being a license for sex and intimacy, only married couples can have and enjoy sex, and their sex is beautiful, transcending physical boundaries, like a journey to heaven; any sexual experience outside the wedlock, however, is dirty and evil, is temptation of the devil that will condemn you to hell. You ought to keep yourself in a bubble of innocence, ignorant of any sexual matter, not even any knowledge of bodily anatomy and human reproductive system. You just need to find a partner and get married, you'll magically learn all of these on your wedding night and suddenly become an expert of sex. Gee, I wonder how that works. That is nothing but a subtle form of prosperity gospel.

 

[Hopeful 2]

This is for you and for Hopeful 2

Your method of dealing with the problem is incredibly naiive.

It reminds me of the 70's and even before and even after.
Sexual matter all over the place.
I once asked a magazine store owner (these stores don't exist anymore) to remove a copy of Playboy off the counter by the cash register because it was offensive to many. He said WHO? No one has complained but you.

TV went the same way. When conservatives complained, this is the answer they received from liberals:
TURN THE TV OFF.

Well, we are all witnesses of how VERY WELL that advice has worked.

For those offended by the porn, his removal of such would have ended the offense.
Don't you think ?
And if the porn was coming into your home, wouldn't you have turned it off ?
That advice to get off the web, if taken, may save the OP writer's soul.

 

[Hopeful 2]

What's really naive is to assume that this perversion of culture can be reversed, the christendom can be revived. Jesus taught that we are salt of the earth, one critical function of salt is food preservation, in pastor Jeffress's word, "delay the decay". It is prophecied that he world goes down to hell in a hand basket, slowly but surely, gradually and then suddenly. What we do is but delay this downward spiral, buying some time to spread the gospel and save as many souls as possible from the broad way to hell.

We can't change a culture, but we can change a man.

In fact, we did fight back in response to the "sexual matter", it was known as the "purity culture", which is essentially a neopuritanism that makes any sexual matter taboo, but with a twist - marriage being a license for sex and intimacy, only married couples can have and enjoy sex, and their sex is beautiful, transcending physical boundaries, like a journey to heaven; any sexual experience outside the wedlock, however, is dirty and evil, is temptation of the devil that will condemn you to hell. You ought to keep yourself in a bubble of innocence, ignorant of any sexual matter, not even any knowledge of bodily anatomy and human reproductive system. You just need to find a partner and get married, you'll magically learn all of these on your wedding night and suddenly become an expert of sex. Gee, I wonder how that works. That is nothing but a subtle form of prosperity gospel.

I wonder how it worked for newly weds in the 1900 years before modern porn ?

 

[follower]

We can't change a culture, but we can change a man.

No. Jesus says with man it is impossible. Only trusting Yahweh, Yahweh Willing, Yahweh may have mercy on someone.

What can a parent do? And rarely does ? Raise a child in the way he should go...... (YHVH'S INSTRUCTION)

 

[follower]

I wonder how it worked for newly weds in the 1900 years before modern porn ?

How "it worked" ?

Shrugs.. a few of them were healed, faithful, and saved.
Most were not ever.

 

[Hopeful 2]

No. Jesus says with man it is impossible. Only trusting Yahweh, Yahweh Willing, Yahweh may have mercy on someone.

What can a parent do? And rarely does ? Raise a child in the way he should go...... (YHVH'S INSTRUCTION)

Yes, parents should.
But as they themselves are caught in the devil's web of lust, they have no authority over even their own kids.
It's a "do as I say and not as I do" brand of parenting.

 

[Hopeful 2]

How "it worked" ?

Shrugs.. a few of them were healed, faithful, and saved.
Most were not ever.

If the only way to learn about sex in marriage is porn, how did anyone learn about it in the years before porn ?

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

We can't change a culture, but we can change a man.

Only if he's willing, John 5:6.

I wonder how it worked for newly weds in the 1900 years before modern porn ?

They were certainly less ignorant in this matter than you think. Most of them were illiterate, but as a compensation, they were experts of reading body language, catching verbal cues and sensing emotions, which is a lost art among modern women. Also, at least one thing is for sure, that women were very knowledgeable of female bodily functions, they recognized menstrual cycle as reproductive cycle and sign of fertility, they understood how babies were made, and it took approximately nine months. In Jewish culture there's a ritual bath which women take at the 15th day from her period, known as the Mikvah. During the 14 days women abstain from any sexual activity with their husbands, after the mikvah they reunite with their husbands and have great sex. That's the bath Bethsheba took, king David saw that and had sex with her later, and she conceived. There was real science behind it - the third week in the cycle is the most fertile week, as women begin to ovulate, women are most likely to conceive in this phase, while in the previous two weeks of her "uncleanness" she's in discomfort, the chance to conceive is practically zero. Many modern women are very ignorant in this, menstruation is considered a taboo and inconvenience, they know far less than their ancestors. Modern porn is misinformation, not only does it degrade women, but it makes people super ignorant in this matter.

 

[Hopeful 2]

Only if he's willing, John 5:6.

The OP writer seemed willing.

They were certainly less ignorant in this matter than you think. Most of them were illiterate, but as a compensation, they were experts of reading body language, catching verbal cues and sensing emotions, which is a lost art among modern women. Also, at least one thing is for sure, that women were very knowledgeable of female bodily functions, they recognized menstrual cycle as reproductive cycle and sign of fertility, they understood how babies were made, and it took approximately nine months. In Jewish culture there's a ritual bath which women take at the 15th day from her period, known as the Mikvah. During these 15days women abstain from any sexual activity with their husbands, after the mikvah they reunite with their husbands and have great sex. That's the bath Bethsheba took, king David saw that and had sex with her later, and she conceived. There was real science behind it - the third week in the cycle is the most fertile week, as women begin to ovulate, women are most likely to conceive in this phase, while in the previous two weeks of her "uncleanness" she's in discomfort, the chance to conceive is practically zero. Many modern women are very ignorant in this, menstruation is considered a taboo and inconvenience, they know far less than their ancestors.

Holy parents will teach their kids what it is all about.