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THE ORIGIN OF SATAN

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Seems to me the secular world knows more about this subject that Christians.
I post it as an FYI. I don't necessarily believe everything in this entry but the history is pretty much correct. If Israel never dealt with a fallen angel named "Ha Satan" then it's a good bet there never is a Satan as Christians believe today that he is a real personality.
I don't fear Satan for I know he/it is nothing but a story that developed as described below and entered our Christian language and culture over the centuries. Too bad there are not enlightened Christians who accept the Scripture as written and do not do their homework. So, For Your Information here's one entry taken from the source below.

FROM: The World History Encyclopedia

Satan, or the Devil, is one of the best-known characters in the Western traditions of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Surprisingly, this entity was a late comer in the ancient world. Satan, as a totally evil being, is nowhere to be found in the Jewish Bible. He evolved during the height of the Persian Achaemenid Empire (beginning c. 550 BCE) and was adopted by Jews living under Persian rule at the time. His formal name, Satan, derives from the Hebrew 'ha-Satan'. 'Ha' means 'the' and 'Satan' means 'opposer' or 'adversary'. The name described his eventual function as the opposer of God’s creation. Greek 'diabolos', English 'devil', meant 'accuser', 'slanderer', again describing his role. The concept of Satan emerged over time and in phases.

The Problem of the Existence of Evil
Evil has always existed. Humans encountered natural disasters (earthquakes, floods), wars with pillage and rape, disease, plagues, and infant mortality, man-made evil such as murders and theft, and of course, death. As the ancients constructed their religious systems, the existence of evil had to be explained and rationalized. Creation myths often designated a high god or a king of the gods, who controlled everything including the other gods as well as nature. In this capacity, they were responsible for both good and evil. The term to describe this ability is omnipotence (all-powerful).
In Deuteronomy 28, God declares that he controls both prosperity and suffering.
Many creation myths addressed how and why evil arose.

Genesis may be understood as a polemic against their neighbors, the ancient Mesopotamians. In the Mesopotamian creation myth, the Enuma Elish, the gods themselves are responsible for evil. They are capricious and chaotic and created humans simply as slaves to offer them sacrifices. The God of Israel is shown as the opposite; he is never capricious, there is a divine plan, and everything he created is deemed good. The narrative function of the 'fall' in the Garden of Eden, the story of Adam and Eve, was to demonstrate that evil began through the fault of humans, not God. Their disobedience led to man’s struggles to produce food and woman’s pain in childbirth. But the most severe punishment was the loss of their immortality. The sin of Adam and Eve brought on the greatest evil, death. As their descendants, we are all doomed to this fate.

Being human, people projected their own experiences upon the gods. Kings had courts of nobles and advisers. As on earth, so in the heavens. Like any court, there were higher and lower officials. The higher ones were the angels in Judaism. The lower deities, daemons (in Greek), were originally neutral but over time were blamed for evil.

In Genesis, God speaks to his court, "the sons of God", the angels, as he proceeds to create the earth. At the end of creation, we have a strange passage in Genesis 6. We read that "the sons of God" had intercourse with human women, producing the "Nephilim", ancient giants. The purpose of this narrative is to explain why God sent the flood (evil on the earth). Many pantheons had gods who mated with women, particularly Zeus in Greek mythology. Israelite tradition, however, rejected this behavior as this mixing could lead to the great sin of idolatry.

Ha-Satan & The Book of Job
The Book of Job (c. 600 BCE) is the earliest text to address the problem of theodicy, which is a modern term for the problem "If God is good, why does he permit evil and suffering to exist?" The book opens with the angels apparently reporting to God. Among them is the angel ha-Satan, whose function was to travel the world placing 'obstacles' (the meaning of his name) in front of humans, requiring them to make a choice (good or evil). In this role, we can say that he acts as God’s prosecuting attorney. Reporting back to God, he mentioned God’s servant Job, who had prospered. But, of course, he says, it is because God granted Job so much favor.

The bet is on. God tells ha-Satan to destroy all of Job’s prosperity, everything except his life. God is sure that Job will not turn away from him. Job’s children are killed, his crops and herds destroyed, and he suffers horrible diseases. Job’s friends all come to comfort him and convince him that he must have sinned because God is a god of justice. Throughout, Job insists that he never sinned; God has unfairly punished him. Frustrated, Job calls on God to explain, and a voice from the whirlwind admonishes him: "Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation?" (Job 38:4) In other words: 'How dare you (a mere mortal) question me?' Job is humbled and concedes the prerogatives and power of God.

Ha-Satan appears rarely in the Jewish scriptures. In the few references to ha-Satan, he opposes humans, not God. In Eden, the serpent serves this function, offering a choice to Adam and Eve. Throughout most of the books of the Prophets, evil is blamed on the people’s sin of idolatry. God is still in control punishing Israel.

Persian Rule & Zoroastrianism
When Jerusalem was conquered and destroyed by the Neo-Babylonian Empire (587 BCE), some Jews were taken into captivity in Babylon. Cyrus the Great then conquered the Babylonians in 550 BCE and established the Persian Empire. The state cult of Persia was Zoroastrianism, founded by the prophet Zoroaster. Evil was seen as the polar opposite of good. A pure, good being, Ahura Mazda ('Wise Lord') was the source of everything, and at the polar end was druj, chaos. Druj became personified as Angra Mainyu ('false', 'deception'), also known as Ahriman. The heavens, the earth, and all humans fall within this polar range.

Cyrus permitted the Jews to return to Jerusalem (539 BCE), although some stayed. They took many elements of ancient Persian religion with them, and they merged the personification of chaos with earlier views of ha-Satan. Now he was just Satan or, in Greek, diabolos, the Devil, and the Jews began assigning all evil to Satan instead of God.

The New Testament
Paul often referred to the demons as the agents of Satan who interfered with his mission. Writing from prison, Paul explained that he could not visit his community "because Satan hindered us" (1 Thessalonians 2:17-18). Paul’s inner struggles were expressed in what can be understood as a form of possession: "And to keep me from being too elated ... a thorn was given me in the flesh, a messenger of Satan, to harass me ..." (2 Corinthians 12:7-9). Paul saw this as God’s ability to control Satan to test him. His familiar phrase, that believers now live in Christ, referred to Christ’s protection against the influence of Satan’s demons in the universe.

Characteristics of Satan & the Personification of Evil
Christian leaders in the 2nd century CE adopted the method of the personification of evil against Jews, women, heretics, and all things pagan. The native cults believed that the gods resided in their temples, but these were agents of Satan. The first iconic portraits of Satan came from the Greco-Roman fertility deity, Pan, who was half-man, half-goat. This is how Satan got his hooves and horns. Pan was represented with and was famous for a huge, erect phallus. This appendage became common in describing Satan. At first, drawn black, red became the standard color in his association with hellfire.

It was also in the 2nd century CE that both Christians and Jews - the early Rabbis - applied new understandings to the story of the fall. This is when the serpent became fully identified as the Devil in disguise and Eve took on more significance as the primary sinner in Eden. With misogynistic views of all women, Eve was understood to have been seduced by the serpent (because of that huge phallus), and then she seduced Adam. In the Rabbinic treatise, Genesis Rabbah, Eve’s sexual shame is why women remain veiled, and that menstruation was the punishment for shedding the blood of Adam. Tertullian, a 2nd-century CE Church Father, claimed that through Eve all women were the "Devil's gateway" and because of Eve "even the son of God had to die" (On the Apparel of Women, I).

The religious traditions of Europe (the Celts, Druidism, and Teutons) added other characteristics. The Celts had a horned god of the west, Cernunnos, similar to Pan. The daughter of Loki had a dual role in fertility as well as rule over the dead, and her name became incorporated to the place 'Hel' or Hell.
 
The Changing Role of satan [lowercase]

Was evil present in the Garden of Eden?

Well, not exactly, however, the idea of a tester/tempter was first introduced in Genesis 3:

1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”
That was the first sign that there was a creature who questioned the word of God.

This beginning of an evil force was later portrayed by the satan (the accuser, the adversary) against the upright Job. God allowed the satan to test him, Job 1:

6 Now there was a day when the sons of God [ben elohim] came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan [the satan H7854] also came among them.
The use of a definite article means that satan was not a proper personal name. With the definite article, the satan sounds like a job title. Further, the same H7854-satan appears in (ESV) 1 Samuel 29:

4 But the commanders of the Philistines were angry with him [David]. And the commanders of the Philistines said to him, “Send the man back, that he may return to the place to which you have assigned him. He shall not go down with us to battle, lest in the battle he become an adversary [satan H7854] to us. For how could this fellow reconcile himself to his lord? Would it not be with the heads of the men here?
Here satan refers to David. Elsewhere, the concept of satan was tied closely to God himself in the Balaam incident in the Aramaic Bible in Plain English Numbers 22:

22 And the wrath of God was provoked against him because he went, and the Angel of LORD JEHOVAH stood in the road to be Satan an adversary to him, and he rode on his donkey and his two young men with him.
Later, Satan appeared in 1 Chronicle 21:

1 Satan [satan, LXX G1228 διάβολος] rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel.
There is a parallel account in 2 Samuel 24:

1 Again the anger of the LORD was aroused against Israel, and He moved David against them to say, “Go, number Israel and Judah.”
The LORD used satan to directly accomplish his will against David!

Later still, the good prophet Micaiah saw the Lord giving permission for a spirit to lie in the mouths of Ahab's bad prophets in order to deceive Ahab. Micaiah said in 1 Kings 22:

23 “So now the Lord has put a deceiving spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours. The Lord has decreed disaster for you.”
By the time of the exile, something changed fundamentally in Daniel 10:

12 Then he continued, “Do not be afraid, Daniel. Since the first day that you set your mind to gain understanding and to humble yourself before your God, your words were heard, and I have come in response to them. 13 But the prince of the Persian kingdom resisted me twenty-one days. Then Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me,
This was angel against angel. It was an open rebellion. This satan/adversary opposition force opposed not only humans,

because I was detained there with the king of Persia. 14 Now I have come to explain to you what will happen to your people in the future, for the vision concerns a time yet to come.”
There were angelic forces for and against Daniel. These were two distinct wills. Only one was for God.

In the NT, the satan concept became the person Satan, the devil, Matthew 4:

1 Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. 10 Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’ ”
11 Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him.
Demons became rampant, Luke 8:

30 Jesus asked him, “What is your name?” “Legion,” he replied, because many demons had gone into him.
Satan lost his position in heaven, Luke 10:

17 The seventy-two returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in your name!” 18 And he said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.
After Jesus' Cross, Satan who accused us day and night before our God was thrown down to the earth (Rev 12:9-11). Jesus now is our Advocate-Paraclete before God (1 John 2:1, Romans 8:34). Satan no longer had access to God.

Hebrews 2:

14 Since the children have flesh and blood, he [Jesus] too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might break the power of him who holds the power of death—that is, the devil
Over time in human history, we can see that the role of satan gets more and more independent from God. Even the concept of testing/tempting has evolved. In the OT, God tested/tempted Abraham. After Satan went rogue, God tested people, and Satan tempted people. Right now, Satan is the ruler of this world.

Paul used Satan in 1 Timothy 1:

20b Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I [Paul] have handed over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme.
Satan is the dragon in Revelation 20:

1 And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. 2 He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years.
In the end, Revelation 20:

10 the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
The word שָׂטָן (H7854 satan) appears only 27 times. It could be used as a noun, an adjective, or a verb. There is a more common word צָר (H6862 tsar) that often is translated as adversary. H6862 appears 111 times.
 
How do you see this verse:

4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; 2 Peter 2:3–4.

Doesn't this say the angels that sinned (before God created man) are all locked up?
 
Can you distinguish between for some and for all? If not, then you are right.
Here's the Scripture. You tell me what it says, and we'll go from there and get to the bottom of this.

4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
2 Peter 2:3–4.

and

6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Jude 5–6.

What do these two passages say to you?
 
Here's the Scripture. You tell me what it says, and we'll go from there and get to the bottom of this.

4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
2 Peter 2:3–4.

and

6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Jude 5–6.

What do these two passages say to you?
The word "all" is not there. I assume for some bad angels.
 
A rose by any other name, " demons, devils, unclean spirits", etc,etc,etc,etc, & etc !

Whatever spirit that can enter into a person & take possession of them, is not a spirit that is being confined, constrained, or bound.

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Mat 8:28

And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way.
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Mat 8:29
And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?
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Mat 8:30

And there was a good way off from them a herd of many swine feeding.
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Mat 8:31
So the devils besought him, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine.
 
The word "all" is not there. I assume for some bad angels.
Well, there cannot be "angels that sinned" that are not locked up.

The "angels that sinned" are inclusive of "all" angels that sinned.

So, do you accept these passages of Scripture as true?

4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
2 Peter 2:4.

6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Jude 6.
 
A rose by any other name, " demons, devils, unclean spirits", etc,etc,etc,etc, & etc !

Whatever spirit that can enter into a person & take possession of them, is not a spirit that is being confined, constrained, or bound.

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Mat 8:28

And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way.
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Mat 8:29
And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?
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Mat 8:30

And there was a good way off from them a herd of many swine feeding.
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Mat 8:31
So the devils besought him, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine.
If the angels that sinned are all locked up, then the understanding the Church has held in the past and today is all wrong.
 
If the angels that sinned are all locked up, then the understanding the Church has held in the past and today is all wrong.
Jesus Christ's testimony of His confronting & dominating " demons, devils, unclean spirits, " is proof that spiritual evil pro-actively exists on earth today.
That is a fact.
A million Angels being " locked up" does not impede or prevent the spiritual evil present on earth today seeking to destroy that Jesus Himself bore witness of in any way.


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" Mat 8:29
And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?"

What are these spirits and why has their " time" not yet come ?

 
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You not jumping to a conclusion according to First-Order Logic.
No, I am not.
I take Scripture as written and unless the context says otherwise, literally.
God says what He means, and He means what He says.
There is no ambiguity with these two Scriptures.

4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
2 Peter 2:4.

6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Jude 6.

Two apostles of the Lord say the same thing.
Do you receive these passages as truth?
 
Jesus Christ's testimony of His confronting & dominating " demons, devils, unclean spirits, " is proof that spiritual evil pro-actively exists on earth today.
That is a fact.
A million Angels being " locked up" does not impede or prevent the spiritual evil present on earth today seeking to destroy that Jesus Himself bore witness of in any way.
The only spiritual activity in the world is from God and man.
Attitudes are immaterial. You can't see them. They are even called "spirits" as in evil spirit. But you can feel them. Your attitude sets the path of your life. Either have a good positive attitude, or have a bad evil attitude. Jesus dealt with both.

27 The spirit of man is the candle of the LORD,
Searching all the inward parts of the belly.
Prov. 20:27.
" Mat 8:29
And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?"

What are these spirits and why has their " time" not yet come ?
Obviously these two were Jews. They would know who Jesus was especially since His fame went abroad in many places. Gentiles would know nothing about the identity of Jesus and would not care unless they were close to the Jews and knew about Israel's Messiah through them, like the Syrophoenician woman and the Roman centurion.
These two had mental disease. Mental conditions, like physical ailments, are the result of sin affecting the body and soul, of which the mind is part of.
We can only surmise what this one meant by saying that, but I know that it has nothing to do with eternal torment for he says (paraphrase) "have YOU come TO TORMENT US before the time," and cannot mean eternal torment for Jesus does not torment anyone.
So, it means something else.
 
Jesus Christ's testimony of His confronting & dominating " demons, devils, unclean spirits, " is proof that spiritual evil pro-actively exists on earth today.
That is a fact.
A million Angels being " locked up" does not impede or prevent the spiritual evil present on earth today seeking to destroy that Jesus Himself bore witness of in any way.


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" Mat 8:29
And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?"

What are these spirits and why has their " time" not yet come ?

The only spiritual activity in the world is from God and man.
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Better for me to take the Word of this Jesus who is the Christ on it, than the word of another sinner like me .


" Mat 8:29
And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?"


What are these spirits and why has their " time" not yet come ?
And why are you afraid to answer?
 
Better for me to take the Word of this Jesus who is the Christ on it, than the word of another sinner like me .


" Mat 8:29
And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?"


What are these spirits and why has their " time" not yet come ?
And why are you afraid to answer?
We find in the NT Jesus healing all sorts of physical infirmities and sickness.
But where in Scripture do we see Jesus healing anyone with a mental sickness or disease? I don't find it outright, do you?
Unless we take these so called "demon possessions" as mental sickness.
A few things to take out from your verse in Matthew 8:29 (synoptic in Mark 5)
1. These two men lived in the tombs.
Why? For what reason? There were no social/government programs, no psychiatric or psychological assistance of doctors or any medication to treat them. But to live in tombs is pretty extreme for these two Jewish men.
2. These two Jewish men knew who Jesus was because they "heard" about Him. IF they were Jewish men they would know the Scripture from a very young age. So, what did they know of this Jesus who everyone was calling "Rabbi" and "Messiah" and "king?" The news of Jesus, Scripture says "was noised abroad" so every Jew was aware of this Jesus. Even if they had some mental condition there was enough understanding to identify Him through word of mouth. So, their knowing about him cannot be any other ascertainment of knowledge of Him except
3. They/he said, "have YOU come TO TORMENT US before the time?" What time? How do you interpret that? And they said, "have YOU come TO TORMENT US," meaning Jesus personally, and you just may know Jesus doesn't torment anyone personally.


I take a literal approach to interpretation of Scripture unless the context requires a spiritualization. You want to spiritualize this event with these two men. I see a mental condition where these two are concerned and it makes perfect sense.
There is no history of "demons" in the Old Testament the way Gentile Christians interpret "demons" today. And if there's no previous reference to "demons" the way you and the Church understand it today as being the spirits of the fallen angels or an entity standalone, then one has to question why the Church does that. If it's not in the Old Testament as chapter and verse then it is New Testament chatter and worse.
 
Can you prove that you are not jumping to a conclusion by showing the First-Order Logical steps that would lead to that conclusion?
I can show you again the Scripture which is supposed to inform our beliefs:

4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
2 Peter 2:4.

6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Jude 6.

These two pillars and apostles of the Lord say that the angels that sinned are locked up.
Do you receive this truth?
 
I can show you again the Scripture which is supposed to inform our beliefs:
We are not communicating. The following is my question:

Do you think your conclusion is based on First-Order Logic?

If yes, then demonstrate your FOL proof according to the syntax of FOL.

If not, then you have jumped to a conclusion according to FOL.
 

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