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I just question how bitcoin is a store of value any more than a dollar bill? I mean, bitcoin has no value beyond what we assign to it. I mean it has literally cost $50 and now costs $60,000, but it's the same physical item as far as any intrinsic value.
To answer your question one must understand what MONEY is. It is not an simple concept if one delves into it.

There is 6 characteristics of a "store of value" that make it so:
  1. scarcity, ... fiat currency can have an infinite supply ... governments just print it
  2. durability, ... it has duration... like a banana rots, but gold never erodes or goes away
  3. portability, ... it is easily moved ... this is difficult for gold due to weight and vulnerable to thief (thus stored in banks which must be trusted to keep it
  4. divisibility, ... divisible into smaller portions to satisfy needs to buy items of various value
  5. fungibility, and Interchangeable
  6. verifiability give way to the salability of goods ... you can verify it's existence and it is accepted by others
Many things through time have been used as a store of value: seashells, silver, tulips, gold, others and now bitcoin has begun to take a foot hold.

It's a complicated subject and takes a few days to study. One first has to understand the concept of money; what are the characteristics of money that gives it of value. A history of money is also insightful.


I can tell you're a smart guy so if you're interested this can get you started:


Bank Crisis & Inflation: The Biggest Scam In The History Of Mankind (this identifies the problem)


Economic Reset: Ray Dalio's Warning On Money, Power, Chaos, WW3 & The Upcoming Financial Crisis (similar to previous youtube video... explaining the problem)​


Explain BITCOIN to Complete Beginners: Ultimate Guide!!​


Interesting article:
Money Defined and Bitcoin’s Usage as Money

Bitcoin: The Gold Standard For A Digital Age
 
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The nature of money is tragically one of the most unexamined and vital questions in modern society. Over the course of history, different monetary systems have risen and fallen as technology progressed and new forms of money emerged that were superior to what came before. To help us understand money, we must examine the question: “who controls the ledger?” As we explore the technological history of money and its various incarnations, from informal social credit to commodity-backed systems, we can gain insight into how control over the monetary ledger impacts individual liberty, economic prosperity, and human flourishing.

In the Austrian tradition, figures like Carl Menger, Ludwig von Mises, and many others have written extensively about the function of money. At its core, money enables indirect exchange as a medium to facilitate transactions. In small communities, social credit systems can adequately regulate resources through direct exchange. However, as these communities grow, indirect exchange through money becomes essential. Expanding the division of labor and specialization requires more complex economic calculations. The increasing sophistication of wants necessitates indirect transactions between distant parties. Most crucially, direct exchange relies on trust and familiarity between counterparties, which erodes with scale. Money arose to enable growing communities to reap the benefits of economic expansion through indirect exchange. Without sound money, rising productivity and specialization cannot be effectively coordinated. The Austrian tradition recognizes how critical the monetary framework is in an evolving economy.

Naturally, certain commodities are selected as monies within the market economy due to their optimal monetary properties as a monetary technology. Said differently, The most salable good, which has the lowest rate of declining marginal utility will be chosen to facilitate indirect trade. The primary monetary properties of scarcity, durability, portability, divisibility, fungibility, and verifiability give way to the salability of goods across time and space. Sea shells, beads, silver, and gold are all examples of different commodities that have historically been used as different mediums of exchange for their respective strengths in these monetary properties.

Lyn Alden, in her recent book, Broken Money: Why Our Financial System is Failing Us and How We Can Make it Better reexamines the question of what money is through her ledger theory of money. She writes:

“A ledger theory of money observes that most forms of exchange are improved by having a salable unit of account that can be held and transferred over both time and space, and that this unit of account implies the existence of a ledger, either literally or in the abstract. These monetary units and the ledger that defines them rely either on human administrators or on natural laws to maintain their stability across time and space.”

Through this lens, we can come to a better understanding of What Has Government Done to Our Money? The cumbersome nature of physical gold as a medium of exchange ultimately led to the adoption of paper currency, and eventually fiat money no longer backed by commodities. Storing, transporting, and verifying pure gold for transactions became increasingly impractical as economies grew and developed technologically. Gold's weight and risk of theft made storage expensive. Assaying gold to verify purity was difficult for everyday commerce. And transporting adequate gold for large transactions was hazardous. Paper currency provided a lighter, more portable proxy for gold that was more practical for exchange. However, it still depended on central authorities securing adequate gold reserves to maintain convertibility. This constrained monetary policy, as the expansion of currency was limited by gold supplies. Over time, the constraints of gold convertibility frustrated governments and central banks. Suspending convertibility in 1971 allowed greater control over money supply and interest rates, providing more policy flexibility. But without commodity backing, fiat currency carries greater risks of inflation, hyperinflation, and other negative externalities. Alden continues:

“The technology of banking systems and paper banknotes in various denominations backed by gold improved gold's effective divisibility. And then, in addition to exchanging paper, people could eventually "send" money over telecommunication lines to other parts of the world, using banks and their ledgers as custodial intermediaries. This was the gold standard - the backing of paper currencies and financial communication systems with gold.”

“For a gold-backed banking system, the only part of the ledger that individual users have control of is the precious metal coins that they retain in their own custody, and for that they rely on the properties of nature to maintain the integrity of the ledger. Once they surrender coins over to the banking system, they have begun to rely on a hierarchy of other people to control their money.”


In the context of Alden’s ledger theory, the supply of gold is controlled by nature and natural laws. Fiat, in contrast, is controlled by human administration and unequivocally by the State. This explanation is the simple answer to what the government has done to our money. The State has taken control of the monetary ledger away from natural law and used that power to facilitate its metastatic growth. Moreover, it has exerted this control as one of its exclusive monopoly privileges. As advocates for free markets, individual property rights, and the right to self-determination nothing is more imperative in our time than separating money from State. The great Friedrich A. Hayek, who advocated for the Denationalisation of Money, famously stated:

“I don't believe we shall ever have a good money again before we take the thing out of the hands of government, that is, we can't take it violently out of the hands of government, all we can do is by some sly roundabout way introduce something that they can't stop”

For the past 15 years, Bitcoin has emerged and continued to develop into a possible sly roundabout way that Hayek hypothesized. Initially and abstractly, Bitcoin was conceived of as a Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System. A decentralized ledger system utilizing cryptographic digital signatures to enforce the concept of perfect digital scarcity. Bitcoin, as a monetary unit, represents a digitally native bearer commodity asset, a truly revolutionary concept. In the context of Alden’s ledger theory of money, she writes:

“Gold has long been turned to as a form of defense and savings, but it's not a useful transactional money in the digital age. The Bitcoin network presents a newer and faster alternative, where nobody can create bitcoin for free, and thus nobody has the power of seigniorage”

Bitcoin closes the speed gap between transactions and settlements. Ever since the invention and deployment of intercontinental telecommunication systems in the second half of the 19th century, transactions have been able to move around the world at the speed of light, while scarce, self-custodial bearer asset money (e.g., gold) could only be transported and verified at the speed of matter. This speed gap opened a massive arbitrage opportunity for banks and governments to use, because it gave them custodial monopolies over fast long-distance payments. Bitcoin represents the first significant way to settle scarce value at the speed of light.
 
While politics can impact how we interact with money locally and temporarily, it's technology that impacts how we interact with money globally and permanently. As new technologies come into existence, certain types of ledgers become obsolete and go extinct while new types of ledgers are born and become necessary. That's why new forms of money tend to be adopted everywhere rather than just locally. As the world became increasingly industrialized, gold won out over every other commodity. And then as the world became increasingly connected by telecommunication systems, fiat currencies displaced gold in every country. Now that digital scarcity and digital settlement exist as new forms of technology, there is an opening for a new monetary era yet again.”

Today Bitcoin’s usage is primarily that of a store of value asset. One possible explanation for this is Gresham's Law, which states that when two forms of currency have equal face value, the one perceived as less valuable will circulate more widely while the more valuable one will be hoarded. This helps explain Bitcoin's current role - its capped supply and volatile valuation make it "good money" for holding as an asset, while fiat currencies with less perceived worth remain the common medium of exchange. However, Bitcoin's monetary status could evolve if adoption increases.

Conclusion:

Studying monetary history reveals that the evolution of money reflects advancements in technology. Societies have selected different monetary mediums based on the strength of their monetary properties - their salability across both time and space. Examining who controls the ledger for each monetary system also provides useful insight. Natural laws governed the ledger of commodities like gold. However, the advent of telecommunications enabled financial transactions to occur much faster than settling payments in physical gold. This highlighted the limitations of using physical gold as money in the modern digital era. As a result, societies adopted credit-based paper and digital monies with ledgers controlled by human administration rather than natural laws. Unfortunately, over time, the State captured control of these ledgers, expanding its authority by manipulating fiat currencies, removing their tether from gold entirely. To counter the unchecked growth of state power, we must return to sound money anchored to a reliable store of value, with a ledger that cannot be manipulated by the State. Using physical gold as a medium of exchange is no longer practical in an increasingly digital world. Therefore, an inventive, censorship-resistant monetary alternative must be developed to separate control of money from the State. Over the past 15 years, Bitcoin's globally distributed public ledger has proven a fascinating experiment in decentralized digital money. Unlike traditional currencies, Bitcoin's ledger is not controlled by any single entity. Rather, it relies on a network of individuals voluntarily running Bitcoin software to reach a consensus on the protocol. This decentralized approach allows the market to decide on the properties of the network and monetary units. Ultimately, the market will determine if Bitcoin is best suited as a medium of exchange for humanity in the digital world. One question we should ask ourselves is this:

“What would it seem like if it did seem like a global, digital, sound, open, programmable money was monetizing from absolute zero?”
 
Hi Alfred Persson

Is that what the GOP now calls the facts that they don't want to deal with? It used to be 'alternative facts'. Now it's 'progressive apologetic material'? I must say, that does sound so very, very professional of them. Progressive apologetic material. Kind of long winded though.

God bless,
Ted
Uncle J is professional. Its obvious he is proficient at finding the material he believes supports his thesis, particularly anti Trump agenda. I have a huge data base of what I wrote over the decades, easily searchable using an old DOS program, since updated called DTSEARCH

But that is for Christian apologetics. Politics is far less important to me, contrary to what may appear here. I realize there is little I can do to alert Christians the followers of the Beast are already among us, setting us up for the kill.
 
Yep, I do indeed have a wealth of facts at my finger tips. We all do...the only question is whether or not those facts matter to you.


The $500 billion specifically "provides $550 billion over fiscal years 2022 through 2026 in new Federal investment in infrastructure, including in roads, bridges, and mass transit, water infrastructure, resilience, and broadband."

All of those are good for US businesses. That's why Don the Con kept promising to have an "infrastructure week" during his term. He knew such investment was desperately needed and would be good for business, but as usual his rhetoric was all just a con. He never did anything for "infrastructure week" and instead spent his time giving himself and his super wealthy cronies the biggest tax cut in US history.

OTOH, President Biden negotiated and signed the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law his first year in office.

Facts matter.
Classic. Biden's proposals were rejected, the bipartisan bill replace it and actually did spend money of infrastructure:

 
Uncle J is professional.
LOL, I appreciate the compliment, but really all I do is pay attention and apply a healthy dose of skepticism and critical thinking to the news.

Classic. Biden's proposals were rejected, the bipartisan bill replace it and actually did spend money of infrastructure:

So the bill President Biden agreed to and signed into law does indeed spend over $500 billion on infrastructure. That's a good thing!
 
I mean this is literally one of the best arguments to be made over the administration of Pres. Biden and the administration's empty promises made during the former guys run.

God bless,
Ted
 
Much like his better health plan that now 8 years from that promise there's not a single person that we know of that's ever seen it. His empty promise of working on an infrastructure bill never even produced a rough draft of such a thing. Now, he's waffling on what the evangelical followers have held up as the very most biggest issue that they've been touting as his biggest reason that they voted for him and plan on voting for him again. He's decided that the abortion issue should be a state's rights issue. Hmmm? Everyone that touches the world of Donald J Trump winds up singed like Icarus. LOL! Poor Giuliani. He's likely going to die a sad and broken man. John Eastman is now a disgraced and disbarred attorney. Same thing for Cohen. Peter Navarro just reported to prison. And he's crying like a baby begging the SC to free him. Fat chance of that. Over 1,000 people have now been charged in the 1/6 insurrection in support of his lies. Fake electors are turning like spinning balls to get out of the crimes they committed bringing a slate of fake electors to throw out the real electors.

It just boggles my mind that people still support that man. But hey, I've read the Scriptures and sadly, it's to be expected.

God bless,
Ted
 
Oh, and lest we forget, by this time the national debt would have been at least half paid off according to his plan going into the 2016 election. LOL! What a farce!

God bless,
Ted
 
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Biden administration announces major expansion for Ariz. chip facility

President Biden’s administration announced a $6.6 billion infusion into expanding a massive semiconductor manufacturing facility in Arizona, a federal investment that administration officials argue will put a U.S.-based facility at the forefront of modern technological manufacturing...
...The federal funds are coming from the Chips and Science Act, bipartisan legislation passed in 2022 amid concerns that the United States is ceding too much semiconductor manufacturing to Asia. The lack of domestic production also became an supply chain issue during the covid pandemic, due to the use of computer chips in products including smartphones, laptops, cars and fighter jets.
 
LOL, I appreciate the compliment, but really all I do is pay attention and apply a healthy dose of skepticism and critical thinking to the news.


So the bill President Biden agreed to and signed into law does indeed spend over $500 billion on infrastructure. That's a good thing!
I would argue the same, if I were you. But it wasn't his first choice, and if left to him alone, the green new deal trojan horse (that I recalled), would be law.

You are good at what you do. Just acknowledging you are a worthy opponent, but not for me. If you argued against Christian doctrine, I would engage you ferociously, using all my tools.

But politics, contrary to all appearances, isn't equally important to me. History happens as it is foreordained to happen. Christ's kingdom is "not of this world". S..t happens. Not much a schmuck like me can do about it.

So your criticism of my Reponses is accurate. I rarely look at your links and if I do, I speed read for main ideas and then usually reject it out of hand. I do as everyone else does, I filter it out.

I wouldn't do that if it involved the gospel of Christ, and your "point" needed refutation. Then I'd take the time to study your links, find the weaknesses and exploit them to the fullest.

You are fun to dialogue with. And I do learn how committed people can be to what I believe is Utopia, which isn't possible outside of God's Kingdom.
 
LOL, I appreciate the compliment, but really all I do is pay attention and apply a healthy dose of skepticism and critical thinking to the news.


So the bill President Biden agreed to and signed into law does indeed spend over $500 billion on infrastructure. That's a good thing!
PS: Leftists (Communists, Socialists, Progressives) are all committed to "Utopia". What I mean by that is the ideal human society where everything is "fair", "equitable", and no one "wants" for basic necessities.

The only problem is the methods used to fund utopia destroy wealth creation, and end up leaving everyone but the "upper crust" in poverty. That is the testimony of history, particularly in China, Russia, Cuba, Korea, Venezuela, etc...

Personal freedom and prosperity is the natural result of free market capitalism. I love the idea of Utopia, but progressive theories how to bring it about, fail.
 
PS: Leftists (Communists, Socialists, Progressives) are all committed to "Utopia". What I mean by that is the ideal human society where everything is "fair", "equitable", and no one "wants" for basic necessities.

The only problem is the methods used to fund utopia destroy wealth creation, and end up leaving everyone but the "upper crust" in poverty. That is the testimony of history, particularly in China, Russia, Cuba, Korea, Venezuela, etc...

Personal freedom and prosperity is the natural result of free market capitalism. I love the idea of Utopia, but progressive theories how to bring it about, fail.
What form of government and economy do you think the Scandinavian countries are under?
 
What form of government and economy do you think the Scandinavian countries are under?
Capitalist, but spend on social programs like socialists. That can work as they prove. What never works is socialist economy with socialist spending. That PragerU video explained treated this:


 
Capitalist, but spend on social programs like socialists. That can work as they prove. What never works is socialist economy with socialist spending.
Good to know. And the good thing is, no US politician is advocating for us to move to a socialist economy or government. Folks like AOC and Bernie want what the Scandinavian countries have....capitalism with a strong safety net.
 

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