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Question:
How much of the Olivet Discourse and Revelation do partial preterists view as fulfilled?
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How much of the Olivet Discourse and Revelation do partial preterists view as fulfilled?
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Question:
How much of the Olivet Discourse and Revelation do partial preterists view as fulfilled?
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The true interpretation is misinterpreted Full Preterism, because the events took place in heaven and not on earth.I couldn't say what others believe.
What do you believe still needs to be fulfilled?
JLB
The true interpretation is misinterpreted Full Preterism, because the events took place in heaven and not on the earth. It was falsely defined by the world to hide the truth of there being a heavenly world and kingdom, falsely defined by the children of the flesh, carnal minded people, as Chris defined them, that interpret spiritual things as carnal, why they think heaven will be on earth and not in heaven.
Explain what? I told you they were fulfilled in heaven.Maybe you could explain what you mean, and share what you believe about Preterism.
Explain what? I told you they were fulfilled in heaven.
The 2nd coming is a parable that was fulfilled in heaven.
The 1st and 2nd resurrections were the fulfillment of the 2nd coming, when "those who were standing there" on the mount of olives with Christ, "tasted death," as prophesied on the mount, when they "saw" Him coming on the clouds into His kingdom, a 1,000 yrs after the 1st resurrection in heaven, in the lake of fire.
It is a parable.
Here we go again.Matthew 24 is a parable?
Are you saying the resurrection of the dead in Christ is past?
Here we go again.
The scriptures have been tampered with. It's the reason why you think a parable is just a story. Read Nu. 23 and 24.Matthew 24 is a parable?
Are you saying the resurrection of the dead in Christ is past?
JLB
The scriptures have been tampered with. It's the reason why you think a parable is just a story. Read Nu. 23 and 24. A parable was a prophesy told in a wise way so the fool couldn't understand. That's why Christ spoke in parables, why God/Christ speaks in parable, which is prophesy/prophesying.
Secondly, I already explained how, when, and where the prophesy was fulfilled.
The answer to your question is in post #5 and it's not an opinion. Your response is.Your opinion is well noted.
Here was my question —
Are you saying the resurrection of the dead in Christ is past?
JLB
The answer to your question is in post #5 and it's not an opinion. Your response is.
Explain what? I told you they were fulfilled in heaven.
The 2nd coming is a parable that was fulfilled in heaven.
The 1st and 2nd resurrections were the fulfillment of the 2nd coming, when "those who were standing there" on the mount of olives with Christ, "tasted death," as prophesied on the mount, when they "saw" Him coming on the clouds into His kingdom, a 1,000 yrs after the 1st resurrection in heaven, in the lake of fire.
It is a parable.
Am I not using the past tense when referencing the 2nd Coming?Here is your post number 5 —
It appears you are promoting the idea that the resurrection of the dead in Christ is past.
Is that true?
JLB
Am I not using the past tense when referencing the 2nd Coming?
Talk is cheap. You and Christianity don't know the truth.Then you are promoting heresy and have strayed from the truth.
If the 1st resurrection is a 1,000 yrs before the 2nd resurrection, which happened in 98 ad during the reign of the 11th Roman emperor (the historical 12th), how could have the 2nd resurrection been past when this argument was presented, lets say, decades after the crucifixion? So, it is a heresy.And their message will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some. 2 Timothy 2:17-18
- have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past
Which is your stumbling block. The 2nd Coming prophecy is a parable/prophecy fulfilled in heaven after the 1,000 yrs reign in heaven, the fulfillment of the Olivet Discourse, when "those were standing there" during the Olivet Discourse tasted death in the lake of fire in heaven. Yours and Christianity's stumbling block is not recognizing the fact that there are 3 resurrections. The 3rd resurrection being the "Wheat and Tares" resurrection, where and when the earth will be reaped, the righteous into the barn which is the New Yahrushalem and the wicked straight into the lake of fire. That's separates the 3rd resurrection from the 2nd, the fact there will be no throne judgement in the 3rd resurrection.When the resurrection of the dead in Christ occurs, it will be at His coming, when He physically returns and destroys the wicked and puts an end to all evil rule in the earth.
Which you can read in Revelation, the 2nd Coming at the 2nd resurrection in heaven.For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming. Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 1 Corinthians 15:22-26
Again, at the 1st and 2nd resurrections in heaven.When the resurrection of the dead in Christ occurs we will have glorious bodies that shine like the sun, and won’t die anymore.
Which has nothing to do with the fact.Jesus answered and said to them, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage. But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection. Luke 20:34-36
- But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; nor can they die anymore,
So when the 1,000 yrs begins and you get your new bodies and are not given to marriage, where will the sinners be during that 1,000 yrs?As long as people are still marrying and they can die, the resurrection has not yet taken place.
JLB
Explain what? I told you they were fulfilled in heaven.
The 2nd coming is a parable that was fulfilled in heaven.
The 1st and 2nd resurrections were the fulfillment of the 2nd coming, when "those who were standing there" on the mount of olives with Christ, "tasted death," as prophesied on the mount, when they "saw" Him coming on the clouds into His kingdom, a 1,000 yrs after the 1st resurrection in heaven, in the lake of fire.
It is a parable.
Which is your stumbling block. The 2nd Coming prophecy is a parable/prophecy fulfilled in heaven after the 1,000 yrs reign in heaven, the fulfillment of the Olivet Discourse, when "those were standing there" during the Olivet Discourse tasted death in the lake of fire in heaven. Yours and Christianity's stumbling block is not recognizing the fact that there are 3 resurrections. The 3rd resurrection being the "Wheat and Tares" resurrection, where and when the earth will be reaped, the righteous into the barn which is the New Yahrushalem and the wicked straight into the lake of fire. That's separates the 3rd resurrection from the 2nd, the fact there will be no throne judgement in the 3rd resurrection.
I get my info from the scriptures, but it has to be line upon, precept upon precept, because the scriptures is not without fault.Wow, so you do not believe what has already been written in the scriptures? Where do you then get your information from?
I get my info from the scriptures, but it has to be line upon, precept upon precept, because the scriptures is not without fault.