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Hello everyone,
Before I start a topic I'm curious about how many are on this board that hold some preterist views?
I do have a topic I'd like to get some feed back on.
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Hello everyone,
Before I start a topic I'm curious about how many are on this board that hold some preterist views?
I do have a topic I'd like to get some feed back on.
digging
Well?
Thus I find myself in a funny place, I see much as in the past yet I still look to the future return of Jesus because I'm of the belief that everlasting life on the earth is our gift.
Oh I see this as yet to happen, BUT there is more than one way to understand the term 'every eye will see him'
13"Therefore I speak to them in parables ; because while seeing they do not see, and while hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.14"In their case the prophecy of Isaiah is being fulfilled, which says, 'YOU WILL KEEP ON HEARING, BUT WILL NOT UNDERSTAND ; YOU WILL KEEP ON SEEING, BUT WILL NOT PERCEIVE ;15FOR THE HEART OF THIS PEOPLE HAS BECOME DULL, WITH THEIR EARS THEY SCARCELY HEAR, AND THEY HAVE CLOSED THEIR EYES, OTHERWISE THEY WOULD SEE WITH THEIR EYES, HEAR WITH THEIR EARS, AND UNDERSTAND WITH THEIR HEART AND RETURN, AND I WOULD HEAL THEM.'
So to with a common preterist point regards the statement Jesus said as you are saying, it will be something seen with the physical eye,
So to with a common preterist point regards the statement Jesus said as you are saying, it will be something seen with the physical eye,
Jesus did not say anything about the physical eye. That would limited the scope to every physical eye.
Jesus every eye.
Every eye refers to those in heaven, those on Earth and those under the Earth.
"Even those who pierced Him" refers to the Jews.
JLB
You are thinking physical eyes, even if you included the angels and demons you are thinking as in the ability to have vision.
I'm not disagreeing that there will be various events that will happen that we could also 'see' but the deeper point is that everyone will comprehend that something very serious is happening, this is the main point, the main way of seeing I believe Jesus is talking about. Just like when a person is in school and the teacher is explaining a math problem and then once the student understands he says 'oh I see it now!'
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So to with a common preterist point regards the statement Jesus said as you are saying, it will be something seen with the physical eye,
Jesus did not say anything about the physical eye. That would limited the scope to every physical eye.
Jesus every eye.
Every eye refers to those in heaven, those on Earth and those under the Earth.
"Even those who pierced Him" refers to the Jews.
JLB
Tweren't a Jew who rammed a spear in His side.
Hello everyone,
Before I start a topic I'm curious about how many are on this board that hold some preterist views?
I do have a topic I'd like to get some feed back on.
digging
Hello everyone,
Before I start a topic I'm curious about how many are on this board that hold some preterist views?
I do have a topic I'd like to get some feed back on.
digging
ALL Christians believe at least SOME "Last Days" prophesy was fulfilled in the 1st Century, for scripture records such fulfillment, The Book of Hebrews is a prime example, The Book of Acts records 1st Century "last Days" prophetic fulfillment as well....
Therefore, ALL Christians are preterist, we only vary by degree.
Hello everyone,
Before I start a topic I'm curious about how many are on this board that hold some preterist views?
I do have a topic I'd like to get some feed back on.
digging
ALL Christians believe at least SOME "Last Days" prophesy was fulfilled in the 1st Century, for scripture records such fulfillment, The Book of Hebrews is a prime example, The Book of Acts records 1st Century "last Days" prophetic fulfillment as well....
Therefore, ALL Christians are preterist, we only vary by degree.
You mean some Preterists are Christian, for the term Christian was long before preterist.
JLB
Peter understood that a last days prophecy of Joel was at least partially fulfilled years before the term 'Christian' was used.
Hello everyone,
Before I start a topic I'm curious about how many are on this board that hold some preterist views?
I do have a topic I'd like to get some feed back on.
digging
ALL Christians believe at least SOME "Last Days" prophesy was fulfilled in the 1st Century, for scripture records such fulfillment, The Book of Hebrews is a prime example, The Book of Acts records 1st Century "last Days" prophetic fulfillment as well....
Therefore, ALL Christians are preterist, we only vary by degree.
You mean some Preterists are Christian, for the term Christian was long before preterist.
JLB
Peter understood that a last days prophecy of Joel was at least partially fulfilled years before the term 'Christian' was used.
Act 2:14 ¶ But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all [ye] that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:
Act 2:15 - For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is [but] the third hour of the day.
Act 2:16 - But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
Act 2:17 - And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
Act 2:18 - And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
Act 2:19 - And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
Act 2:20 - The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:
Act 2:21 - And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
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Act 11:26 - And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.