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Problem: Both Mark13 and Luke 21 mention nothing about the "end of the age"!
Please respond to my post 15 of this thread, I refute your argument that says "no question was asked about the temple".
I clearly showed that Jerusalem and the temples destruction were the ONLY thing asked about and bring discussed.
Luk 21:5 And as some spake of the temple, how it was adorned with goodly stones and gifts, he said,
Luk 21:6 As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
Luk 21:7 And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass?
Mat 24:1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
Mat 24:2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
Mat 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
Is not Luke 21 and Matt not the same account? Matt gives a more detailed description but it was all by the Holy Spirit and same account.
I already showed you, they were checking out the temple, the precious stones, and gifts. Jesus then said no stone will be left that is not thrown down.
1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
Luk 21:5 And as some spake of the temple, how it was adorned with goodly stones and gifts, he said,
Now why would Jesus talk about some temple getting knocked over, after I gave you the scripture comparison that we are those gifts and precious stones laid on the chief corner stone?
Jesus never mentioned the Temple getting knocked over. He said each stone will be cast down. Jesus then goes into telling them what to expect, how they are thrown into prison, and in that generation many hearts grow cold.
Now many were left or we would not have the Word today, so All those stones getting thrown down to the last one has yet to happen. Every last stone must be removed from the chief corner stone.
Eph_2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
I find it hard to believe Jesus was not more focused on His Church than some old temple that would have fallen apart anyway.
Mike.
Brother mike
You said "Now why would Jesus talk about some temple getting knocked over, after I gave you the scripture comparison that we are those gifts and precious stones laid on the chief corner stone?
Jesus never mentioned the Temple getting knocked over. He said each stone will be cast down. Jesus then goes into telling them what to expect, how they are thrown into prison, and in that generation many hearts grow cold.
Now many were left or we would not have the Word today, so All those stones getting thrown down to the last one has yet to happen. Every last stone must be removed from the chief corner stone.
In particular, you said "Now many were left or we would not have the Word today, so All those stones getting thrown down to the last one has yet to happen. Every last stone must be removed from the chief corner stone.
The words "thrown down" is the Greek "katalyo" and means "to dissolve, to destroy, to demolish, to overthrow, nullify".
How and why will every believer be destroyed, demolished, and thrown down from Christ????
This is actually impossible!
1cor.6:17 "he that is joined to the Lord is ONE SPIRIT"
Eph.5:30 "we are members of his body, of his flesh and of his bones"
We are ONE in and with Christ, both "Head" and "body" are ONE new man.....Christ!
It is because you do not understand who you are that you say such things.
Furthermore:
Eph_2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; 21...the building fitly framed together growth unto an holy temple in the Lord 22...Ye also are builded together for a habitation of God through the Spirit"
Contrary to your strange notion that all believers must be destroyed and cast down from their position in Christ, scripture teaches the "building" of these stones. We will be built to "perfection", even unto Him! (Eph.4:11-15)
Brother Mike, your theory makes no "spiritual sense" at all and is contrary to NT revelation.
Please seriously deal with the plain text of the discourses.
One last thing, you said: "I find it hard to believe Jesus was not more focused on His Church than some old temple that would have fallen apart anyway."
Answer: Jesus was more focused on his Church! That's why he spoke everything he did, to warn them of the Judgment and destruction of Jerusalem which would happen only 40 years later (in their generation). His warning TO THEM was his FOCUSSING ON them!
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Hope of glory