You said in the other thread:
Carbon dating or Radiometric Dating actually don't say anything about the arrival of humans (created by God in His image 6000 years back).
This is expressly false and I wonder where you heard this from? We use Carbon 14 Dating in determining the rate of decay in organic materials, all living things intake a certain amount of Carbon 14 isotopes and upon dying cease to create these isotopes and the decay process begins at what can be calculated as the half life. By then measuring the rate of decay by comparing the parent to daughter isotope ratio we can determine how old the sample is.
We use Carbon 14 Dating on Homo Sapien fossils (including their tools, etc.) up to about 60,000 years ago.
We also use a technique called Thermo-luminescence and other related methods that measure the amount of electrons that get stored up inside of a rock or tooth, etc. over time. There are many other reliable dating techniques that we can use to determine when these fossils came about and even more when you unlock the key of evolution and examine biochronology and the Molecular Clock.
These dating techniques when applied to the fossil remains of the Homo neanderthalensis have been found to date back to perhaps over 500,000 years ago as a subspecies of the Genus Homo, a population that migrated North to Europe and then evolved to be carnivorous hominids with a brain almost as advanced as anatomically modern humans. There is simply no interpretation of the data which can even be more reliably dated to 32,000 years ago that this species was 1) from a close ancestry as the Homo Sapiens, namely from the Homo heidelbergensis, but 2) do not coincide with the arrival of Homo Sapiens but predate them.
You also said:
The humans (or descendants of Adam and Eve) according to the Bible created by God have "birth pains" (for females), which is the biggest clue "the curse from God" for Eve and females to classify descendants of Adam and Eve who are created in the image of God from other pollution of sons of God/fallen angels (if any - which the Bible is silent). Consider neanderthal for example: They are said to have pain but their birth process is simple and not as complicated as humans (Ref: Neandertals Babies Didn't Do the Twist). Homo erectus also did not have birth pain as painful as humans and their pelvis is 30% larger (Ref: Painful Labor: A Modern Thing).
This is another problem I have with Creationism in that it hijacks any and all "favorable" discoveries in science and immediately tries to twist it (unlike Neanderthals) into their dogma. Observations like these are not only highly speculative, but they are proven false by the fact that the interpretation of it occurring within the last 6,000 years is blatantly erroneous. Homo sapiens evolved separately from the Homo neanderthalensis and thus are not expected to have similar modes of birth, this is not evidence of some curse.
Not only that, but how do you explain the Homo heidelbergensis or the Australopithecus afarensis or the Australopithecus africanus, these are distinctly related to Homo sapiens (their ancestors) yet would not fit within your interpretation.
Hence, human like creations who were living before Adam and Eve may have been the Nephelim version with human like animals (e.g, apes) by sons of God or fallen angels. They could even be a normal creation of God just like Apes and Chimpanzees. Till date humans females are the only creations with birth pains and it is said to be a recent thing. Due to lack pelvis in fossils, we can't be sure when birth pain started.
Excuse me but other animals do feel birth pains, but they are not as strong as Homo sapiens for a few reasons.
1. The birthing canal must be more narrow for us because we walk upright.
2. Humans have the largest brain and thus a big head from birth in proportion to their body.
Combining a narrow canal and a big head and an advanced central nervous system in the mother capable of exquisite pain and you get a really painful birth.
Bible is clear on the subject that any female (in that kind created by God) who don't have the current process of birth having intense birth pains (curse by God) are not descendants of Adam and Eve (not created in the image of God).
This to me is a very odd conclusion, would this thus result in women who take Epidurals as not being created in the image of God? I also find it odd that you take such a drastic interpretation off of the transliterated word Nephilim which has been notoriously difficult to define and figure out.
Wherever the Bible is silent, I tried to explain the best possibility for such observations using Biblical facts. All I want to make sure is those possibilities and other explanations provided must not contradict other Bible facts. I am happy to make revisions if anything contradicts Bible.
This is the very problem with your system, you take what science has to say ONLY so long as it does not contradict your dogma. You seem to exclude yourself from the possibility that the text in question is metaphorical in nature rather than a literal narrative and thereby give yourself a confirmation bias as to the data coming in. Carbon 14 Dating MUST not be applicable to ancient hominid fossils because it would be a detriment to your constructed beliefs.
This is the kind of faith that if widely promoted would lead to countless Christians falling away if indeed they did study seriously what modern science has discovered. In order to believe it one has to become so completely convinced of their rightness that they shut them selves off to all other data and interpretations that are indeed superior.
There is no scientific conspiracy, I don't embrace evolution because I want to just go off on sin, I embrace evolution as a devoted follower of Jesus Christ and say to you as other Christians would... Don't doom yourself to believing something that is flatly false, stake your hope on Christ, not on a liberal interpretation of Genesis. One of those is a sure foundation, the other has long since been eroded.
