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The bible tells us love comes from God, but what type of love is true love. Is true love from God ? The true love God says is what needs in thr heart to find it ? Is his True love as a father, the love a women and men must have to find true love ? The love of a couple of men and women the love he wants us to love so we can love the univers like him or love like Jesus ? Love comes from him a father love's, a mother love's, and love of siblings is love and the bible verses says all love is his creation. What is your experience in true love ? What bible verse you found tell true love or other love God says in the bible.


We will look at verses and find proverbs 31 the women God wants and psalms a place where true love is and verses.
 
Hey All,
You cannot say all is love is true love, like you are trying to do grumix8. Love between a man and woman, that leads to a lifetime commitment of caring for, and sharing with, would be considered a true love. That kind of love is blessed of God.

Genesis 1:27-28 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

The love of a couple of men and women, as you put it, Is not love and far from true. Homosexuality is a sin punishable by God.

Genesis 19:4-5 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:
And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

I encourage you to read the whole account in Genesis 19. To save space I will cut to the end.

Genesis 19:23-25 The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar.
Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;
And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.

See? Not true love in the eyes of God.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Paul spells it out so there is no mistake about what he means. " . . . abusers of themselves with mankind . . . is pretty clear. As the verse says, " Be not deceived."

Keep walking everybody.
May God bless,
Taz
 
The bible tells us love comes from God, but what type of love is true love. Is true love from God ? The true love God says is what needs in thr heart to find it ? Is his True love as a father, the love a women and men must have to find true love ? The love of a couple of men and women the love he wants us to love so we can love the univers like him or love like Jesus ? Love comes from him a father love's, a mother love's, and love of siblings is love and the bible verses says all love is his creation. What is your experience in true love ? What bible verse you found tell true love or other love God says in the bible.

Agape love doesn't come from God as something separate from Him, that He doles out to His children like some sort of spiritual currency, but is God Himself. God is (agape) love (1 John 4:8, 16), which means when He gives us His love, He is giving us Himself. God does this in the Person of the Holy Spirit who "sheds abroad the love of God in our hearts" (Romans 5:5; Galatians 5:22).

What is "true love"? God never says in His word anything about "true love" but He does describe what He means by love: an over-riding desire for Him, for fellowship with Him. See: Psalm 42:2; Psalm 63:1; Psalm 84:2; Psalm 143:6; Philippians 3:7-11. Out of this desire arises the sort of self-sacrificing action Paul the apostle described in 1 Corinthians 13:4-8:

4 Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant
5 or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful;
6 it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth.
7 Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
8 Love never ends...


When a believer desires God above all else, putting aside anything that hinders a pursuit and experience of Him, they submit to His Spirit and are then, over time, filled, or completed, or perfected by the Holy Spirit. This is marked by an ever-increasing desire - love - for God that overrides everything else in the believer's life and by the life of the Spirit being more and more in evidence in the believer's conduct in supernatural patience, kindness, holiness, endurance, truthfulness, etc.

The love God commands of us, the over-riding desire for Him that He commands us to have, is not a sentimental, semi-romantic emotion, a feeling of weepy affection. We all have many things we desire that are not accompanied by such emotions or feelings. When I desire a drink of water, for example, I don't have a sentimental, vaguely romantic feeling about water, I don't have a mushy emotion of affection for it. I trained in the martial arts for thirty years because I loved the training, but I never once had a warm, mushy feeling about it. Instead, my love - my strong, overriding desire - for the training showed up in a persistent and consistent participation in the training, despite broken teeth, torn tendons, dislocated joints, monetary expense, physical exhaustion, and so on. Love, then, isn't a feeling we have, though feelings might arise from love, but strong, positive desire.
 
friend said this.

Romantic love is certainly found in the Bible. Not only is the Song of Solomon about romantic love but so is the love of Jacob for Rachel and his willingness to serve Laban for seven years in order to marry her.

Gen. 29:18 Now Jacob loved Rachel, so he said, ''I will serve you seven years for your younger daughter Rachel. . . 20] So Jacob served seven years for Rachel and they seemed to him but a few days because of his love for her.

So there you have it.
 
A person named sparrow said this :

Love.
The highest goal a man can aspire to.

1 Corinthians 13 gives us a glimpse.
So we start to understand it, recognize it, cultivate it, make others feel it, give it freely, receive it freely, treat another with love to encourage them TO love. Treat another with love (patience, kindness, uplifting instead of beating down, seeking the good in a person instead of highlighting their not-so-good, trying to bring out the best qualities in another, instead of the worst, etc.) The more love is strengthened, the more the ability for love to persevere, trust, hope, assume the best instead of the worst, etc. To let it TRANSFORM us, basically. So many times we withhold love from one another from fear. So many times we withhold love out of spite or pettiness (fear is the root of most of that stuff, I think.) Perfect love casts out ALL fear. There is no fear in love. This is a sign. So we understand and recognize what love is and what love is not. We are here to learn.

Just because we may fail, even on a daily basis, that highest goal of LOVE remains.
For us to see each day as a new beginning to try to overcome the things within us that cause us to withhold love. A new beginning, of trying to strengthen the bonds of love in everything we do. To LOVE, period. Just because it may seem unattainable doesn't mean we don't keep striving. Learning from our mistakes and just keep pushing the darkness into the light as much as we humanly can. Love is the most powerful thing in the universe. God IS Love.

There is a sermon from MLK Jr. "Loving Your Enemies".
It's actually my favorite sermon:

It's very long, so I can't include the whole thing but here it is in part, as it relates to this thread, thought some may like it:


Quote:

The Greek language, as I’ve said so often before, is very powerful at this point. It comes to our aid beautifully in giving us the real meaning and depth of the whole philosophy of love. And I think it is quite apropos at this point, for you see the Greek language has three words for love, interestingly enough. It talks about love as eros. That’s one word for love. Eros is a sort of, aesthetic love. Plato talks about it a great deal in his Dialogues, a sort of yearning of the soul for the realm of the gods. And it’s come to us to be a sort of romantic love, though it’s a beautiful love. Everybody has experienced eros in all of its beauty when you find some individual that is attractive to you and that you pour out all of your like and your love on that individual. That is eros, you see, and it’s a powerful, beautiful love that is given to us through all of the beauty of literature; we read about it.


Then the Greek language talks about philia, and that’s another type of love that’s also beautiful. It is a sort of intimate affection between personal friends. And this is the type of love that you have for those persons that you’re friendly with, your intimate friends, or people that you call on the telephone and you go by to have dinner with, and your roommate in college and that type of thing. It’s a sort of reciprocal love. On this level, you like a person because that person likes you. You love on this level, because you are loved. You love on this level, because there’s something about the person you love that is likeable to you. This too is a beautiful love. You can communicate with a person; you have certain things in common; you like to do things together. This is philia.


The Greek language comes out with another word for love. It is the word agape, and agape is more than eros. Agape is more than philia. Agape is something of the understanding, creative, redemptive goodwill for all men. It is a love that seeks nothing in return. It is an overflowing love; it’s what theologians would call the love of God working in the lives of men. And when you rise to love on this level, you begin to love men, not because they are likeable, but because God loves them. You look at every man, and you love him because you know God loves him. And he might be the worst person you’ve ever seen.

And this is what Jesus means, I think, in this very passage when he says, “Love your enemy.” And it’s significant that he does not say, “Like your enemy.” Like is a sentimental something, an
affectionate something. There are a lot of people that I find it difficult to like. I don’t like what they
do to me. I don’t like what they say about me and other people. I don’t like their attitudes. I don’t
like some of the things they’re doing. I don’t like them. But Jesus says love them. And love is
greater than like. Love is understanding, redemptive goodwill for all men, so that you love
everybody, because God loves them. You refuse to do anything that will defeat an individual,
because you have agape in your soul. And here you come to the point that you love the individual who does the evil deed, while hating the deed that the person does. This is what Jesus means when he says, "Love your enemy." This is the way to do it. When the opportunity presents itself when you can defeat your enemy, you must not do it.

Now for the few moments left, let us move from the practical how to the theoretical why. It’s not
only necessary to know how to go about loving your enemies, but also to go down into the question of why we should love our enemies. I think the first reason that we should love our enemies, and I think this was at the very center of Jesus’ thinking, is this: that hate for hate only intensifies the existence of hate and evil in the universe. If I hit you and you hit me and I hit you back and you hit me back and go on, you see, that goes on ad infinitum. It just never ends. Somewhere somebody must have a little sense, and that’s the strong person. The strong person is the person who can cut off the chain of hate, the chain of evil. And that is the tragedy of hate, that it doesn’t cut it off. It only intensifies the existence of hate and evil in the universe. Somebody must have religion enough and morality enough to cut it off and inject within the very structure of the universe that strong and powerful element of love.


I think I mentioned before that sometime ago my brother and I were driving one evening to
Chattanooga, Tennessee, from Atlanta. He was driving the car. And for some reason the drivers
were very discourteous that night. They didn’t dim their lights; hardly any driver that passed by
dimmed his lights. And I remember very vividly, my brother A. D. looked over and in a tone of
anger said: “I know what I’m going to do. The next car that comes along here and refuses to dim the lights, I’m going to fail to dim mine and pour them on in all of their power.” And I looked at him right quick and said: “Oh no, don’t do that. There’d be too much light on this highway, and it will end up in mutual destruction for all. Somebody got to have some sense on this highway.”
Somebody must have sense enough to dim the lights, and that is the trouble, isn’t it? That as all of the civilizations of the world move up the highway of history, so many civilizations, having looked at other civilizations that refused to dim the lights, and they decided to refuse to dim theirs. And Toynbee tells that out of the twenty-two civilizations that have risen up, all but about seven have found themselves in the junkheap of destruction. It is because civilizations fail to have sense enough to dim the lights.

And if somebody doesn’t have sense enough to turn on the dim and beautiful and
powerful lights of love in this world, the whole of our civilization will be plunged into the abyss of
destruction. And we will all end up destroyed because nobody had any sense on the highway of
history. Somewhere somebody must have some sense. Men must see that force begets force, hate begets hate, toughness begets toughness. And it is all a descending spiral, ultimately ending in destruction for all and everybody. Somebody must have sense enough and morality enough to cut off the chain of hate and the chain of evil in the universe. And you do that by love.
Now MLK may have been more of a pacifist, possibly than I am because I believe evil must be restrained. We are living in this world of contrasts of darkness and light, good and evil, love and non-love. But actively focusing on love, and the transformative power of love is the key. To strengthen love. Increase it's power. The goal being there is no more evil left TO restrain. Evil starts out small and snowballs. You have no idea the effect you can have on another human being by choosing to LOVE instead of choosing to be indifferent. You CAN derail a train of destruction by an act of kindness. Just as you can be complicit in the suffering of others by choosing to ignore a cry for help. We're all in this together, just trying to make our way through this jungle the best we can.

peace,
sparrow
 
A friend wrote this:

I always go back to a common reference in the bible on the subject of love. 1 Corinthians 13.
3 If I speak in the tongues[a] of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.
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Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

Men and women often drop the standard requirements for love in this passage. Even believers. I find the Lord's love flows through me and I sincerely love others.If I love someone I want the best for them which means instead of envy we are happy for them. Instead of being short with them we want to wait to hear what they will say and truly value it or in love rebuke it.
When we really care for someone we are more than willing to forgive them if they offend us. We want no harm for those we love, so we will do protective things to help them.Love is locked into purity because purity is wholesome and fulfilling. We see the damage unwholesome things can do, so we fight against those things. We persevere for those we love and would trade ourselves for them if it means their good. I see so many parents sacrificing this worlds good to put their kids through college. Husbands sacrificing for wives or deferring to their wants over their own and visa versa.
God's love never fails and we are tapped into His love if we follow Him. Here's the clincher. We are to love our enemies. The bible tells us to love our neighbor as ourselves. I once thought this a heavy chore, and I have known some people who were more difficult to love than others.


If I love my enemy, is that person any longer my enemy? Maybe they are unkowingly working for my spiritual enemy, but I begin to see them as a friend , and they really are my friend as I would do anything for them I would do for a friend. I appreciate them . I am looking out for them. They may not reciprocate but true love isn't always based on reciprocation. It feels good if it happens. Most of my earthly friends have at one time or another let me down and I've probably let them down without realizing it. Some friends drift away over time or we become less intimate with them due to life happening.


There is a natural "hook" between men and women where boundaries need to be set.Lines not crossed. This takes wisdom, understanding and self control on both sides of it. Don't put yourself in a situation where you could be tempted to go too far. If you are tempted to get attached to that deeper level, deal with it in the same ways you deal with any other temptation. Pray. Don't feed it.
Our differences can be appreciated without going too far, that is unless you are single and looking for a wife and those emotional hooks might be setting into someone which is a natural series of events if you are serious with them. This love is a romantic love and it's interesting the Lord uses this kind of love to express His love for the us as the "bride". That love is really a soul tie which is what happens when a man marries a woman.
The world replaces sex for love and has all kinds of other incorrect contexts for it.
 
I think our concept of "true love," in the West, particularly the United States (where I am from) is a bit adulterated. We tend to think of "true love" as this all consuming, unreasoning passion. Tied up in this idea is the idea of infatuation, and, to some extent, also lust as well.

Thus, our classic romances often involve tragedy as people neglect other duties in the face of an all consuming love. Our tradition gives us the self-consuming love of Romeo and Juliet, Othello's murderous jealousy, Madea killing her own children out of spite for her unrequited love, Ariadne left and abandoned by Theseus after she helps him defeat the minotaur for his love, Faust's seduction through magic, Lancelot and Guinevere's adulterous love, and Tristan and Isolde's forbidden love, spurred on by an unfathomable magic potion.

Are these classics widely read? Maybe not, but it's suprisingly how much art ends up based on the same foundational models.

I like the idea of love as "finding yourself in the other," or "coming to find your identity in an other." The family is our strongest experience of this, and we are given this model to follow in the Bible, which speaks of man and woman "becoming one flesh."

But the love we are called to is not concupiscence, which is a corrosive desire for the finite things of this world. I tend to agree with Augustine that the purest love is when we love people for what we see of God in them, when we set our hearts on the immutable.

Earthly love can be a strong example for us. We can see how we can lose ourselves in another, becoming one. And we are called to this sort of love for God, and then for all men, who are made in God's image. But it is a bad example to the extent that it is tied up in a concupiscence, lusts, etc. that drive us to ignore our love for those other than the beloved.

For "God is love." So, John says: "Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God." (I John 4).

The love of God is not irrational, but supremely rational, for the Spirit brings us to knowledge (Ephesians) and we are to be "friends" of God, understanding what is asked of us in love, not mere servants. "No longer do I call you servants, for the servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all that I have heard from my Father I have made known to you." (John 15:15).

In this, I think the love of a parent for a child often tends to better model the love we are called too than the "true love" of our romances. This is by no means a cold and sterile love, but neither is it "burning onto destruction," but rather sustains both parties.
 
Gods love is not unconditioned Love has conditions His love in unfailing .

I would offer . Three things make up the essence of God. One God is Light and not that he can only create it temporally Two God is Spirit , Three God is love and again not that he cannot work it out in us

God is a jealous God he owns all things

1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

But his love is not jealous it has many attributes (12) that lead to His truth the gospel The first work of Love is God is long sufferings he does not have a need to brag, , the second attribute Love is Kind and it is not proud. Love is not rude, it is not selfish, and Love cannot be made angry easily. Love does not remember wrongs done against it. Love is never happy when others do wrong, but it is always happy with the truth. Love never gives up on people. It never stops trusting, never loses hope, and never quits.
 
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Love comes from God and he created it, he wanted man and woman in the Eden. there was the first true love and it is where love comes from and the model God wanted for man and women to have. We see he gave commands and love came from Eden. God created love and wanted love to be on Earth. Eden is how he wanted the world and what is the original model of love he wanted man and women is there. There is a model man-God true love and women-God true love and there is one man-women true love that God gives and there is a secret in it.

God made love and he has an important reason why he created love and is reaveals secrets. There is an importance in love he wants us to love and he created love so we are connencted to him.


Love is sometimes uncomfortable and we find it, it will come out not like we want but like God wants and it is neccesary soemtimes that way. Some people don't know how love will do all this and wome sometimes do and sometimes they don't really love is like fire and grows and dissapears like God in mysterious ways. There are many ways love is said in the bible becomes and some in poetry, some in literary way, some spirit, and others by Biology thru pheromones and body functions.


Love is more than that God's love in Heaven is something we don't grasp but we have before, feel it and where with him in heaven and had his love and before he sent us we did know what it was and we use it in heaven. Love is part of what God gives in heaven and he gave it to us for a purpose he has and in his plan of God and it is all different it all works for his plan and love comes out when you least expect it.



David realtionship with Bethsabe- it was wrong and yet God let him have her and it was a bad start but still God's plan got thru and what was needed for Solomon to be born and Israel kingdom to exist happened. Sometimes hard times have to happen so love can become true love and putting it in God's hands will help.


Abraham realtionship with Sarah- They are the model relationship after the fall they pass hard tests but shows true love wins against the them all and were faithful to God and got thru it all. Love is part of the test God gives to man and women, to the people who worship him.
 
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Even in tragedy those who fall in love are examples true love is part of the plan of God and will test you.

there will be more examples of Abraham-sarah couple, we will see true love can come at the beggining, middle of life, or in the end and wait for 50 years or 60 years to have it. Just like Jacob had to pass 7 years to have Rachel it is sometimes the hard tests of love and his people.


Love can be in the beggining when your a child and meet them to pass thru all the tests.


Love can be in your middle life and when you are mature.


Love can be at the end of your life and at old age find true love and it all can be a purpose find true love and thru hard times when your young pass thru test and be faithful to your wife and to God and be with God and be faithful until the end.

Sometimes you had true love you did something good for your love life and been a couple you help someone in that earlylife and if you weren't a couple couldn't do it because you were not in a partner relationship and they didn't compare to you. Because you weren't in the same position as them and just out of probabilities you were doing things and it happened out of nowhere and you help someone and did the plan of God and change someone life to become a christian. It could be you where in middle life and found love and she left becuase she was confused and wasn't sure you were the one person you were meant and she left because she wasn't sure. Later you forgive her because true love will love no matter what. You have to put God first and if God wanted you to find true love you will ask for it and she will be the one.



But you will find true love and she left you for someone you will see you will find her and even if contradiction in the next words, be agaisnt God because he is testing you and he will do that God and not to leave the faith but even hard things in life. You wait and she realize she was wrong and you love each other true love is there and is the true love God gives. It may sound contradictable but sometimes it will go that way God test to have true love. Remember it will depend and it all has to do with the plan of God.


For example I know a couple women found a man and he was a gentile and she was jewish. They knew they were meant for each other and they were part of the plan of God. But thier families were against each and thier religion were against each other. The girl went against her religion and the guy rejected his family they met in secret and kept thier love. At the end he went jewish and converted.

This was a happy ending and some stories I found and know you have heard of it and others. Men left thier jewish religion and married and the girl left thier life and got married he never came back to judaism. But they found true love. The other story one left his life and amrried to a women and christian women left the church but later got back in their old age and were baptized. They could be against God but sometimes happens to find true love God will put in those conditions. This are the test God gives that gives.


The first part to have true love.



1. Ask God for it. Pray to him and pray to him he will answer no !!! But if you really want it get it no matter what. He will send you tests and let you have victory and she might leave but he wants you pass the hard times and be faithful. You will see she might die or she leaves and you will see her in the end. And God will save her and meet her in heaven. It is a test and God is not God that does not want happy ending but needs to make story that new and be the story he wants to be witness of your story and you will pass hard times but you will win. And true love at the end will win. Eve if she dies, she leave you, or sometimes an accident you don't happens.
 
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2. If you want true love you pray for it and ask God for it. but remember it depends not all of us want true love and were not all made for true love. God wants us to worship him and love him adore him. The relationship with God and man is to him. To love him and he is the only source of love and he is your focal point in life. He's worship is him and you. It for women and for men, it is the purpose we worship and why he creates us. That is why some of us were made soldiers, some were made builders, were artist, and some are monks. Were all made for diffrent purpose and we are complete when we do the plan of God. So man are meant to be God-man realtionship it is neccesary man and his realtion with God make man, makes prophets, and makes kings. The same for women. This is not about sexual relation, sexual relation is not how to find ture love but God is the one who will give true love. You can find couples in the world that don't have sexual relation and they find true love.

Rember we are all witnesses and that is why ! We are here to be witness of God war against the devil and we were faithful with him until the end and pass the tests. Not all of us are made for couple but have true love with the Lord and have the real love God has given to one another with him. And man has the love God has from heaven and is perfect. Jesus is the love God wants man to have and it is true love. And he wants us that love as priority. But some can't reach that love and they find a women and love and that is enough for man. But it is the plan of God and sometimes God will want you to find a women that has that love like Jesus and does reach it. And wants you to pair with her to find true love and Together find a secret that only two fo those people together can unravel thru their relationships and do a secret thing only they will know that God reavels and can be achieve only thru women-man- love of Jesus had - relationship with God. With the original worship of God has in the bible way and not the confusing of modern way couples that just divorce and television tell us.

The real worship of God that Israelites have, the real people of God that love and worship and will do everthing for his kingdom. They will fight, kill, be tested, love and lose loves one but will be faithful to him in the end. They achieve this secret and find it.

There is

man-God with Jesus love relationship can achieve it.

women- God with Jesus relationship can achieve it.

And Man-Women-God with Jesus love can achieve it.

Women-Man Babylonic ( That is the whole world, normal wedding )

Men-Men ( gay relationship ) cannot achieve it.

Women-Women ( Lesbian relationship ) cannot achieve it.

True love is secret and the hebrew secret of God in true love and his people is secret and the real people of God will know that secret .


Some couples won't find it and love will go in any direction and God will put it that way.
 
How to find True Love Biblically ! Part 2:b

True love will be tested and to find it. God will make you go thru hard times and lose but will win. True love is part of the plan of God and you will use love like Jesus and complete his plan with it. And find with love, with love with all your heart to God and do it with with all your heart. Sometimes it is needed the heart of a child, to be in women place and have a heart of women to love them but to be a man of God and be wise. And know how to use wisdom and let God helps you with his hands, put his will above yours and hers, have a heart of child to love like children love because God love children because they will give themselves to the lord and be selfless to others and sacrifice themselves to save them like Jesus says.

John 15: 12-15

12 This is my commandment, that ye love one another, even as I have loved you. 13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. 14 Ye are my friends, if ye do the things which I command you. 15 No longer do I call you servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I heard from my Father I have made known unto you.

To Love like God loves and love your wife, love your children, and enemies all of them. you achieve this you get the real worship of God and have the relationship of Jesus with God. And use it for the women-men-God with Jesus love. God will reveal you secret that only that relation between Jesus-God has. It is a secret and only the real people of God kow !!!


It is not easy but it is a secret.


Couple will not find it some like Samson-Delalilah, Ruth-Boaz, and Judith-Holofernes. Samson love his wife and even though his wife was evil, he survive and still was faithful to God. Ruth had to go thru hard tests and Judith but they dind't know about that love Jesus
had but did love.

3. It's time sometimes love will pass thru time to be true love and some find true love at early stage, middle fo their life and at the end. But true love is not love at first sight, love in same interest, love for sexual desire, love for needs, or love to give. You will see many will love but will not find true love. The promblem is sometimes you can be sure your in love but alter find out he is not the one and later find out when you die and in heaven God tells ya it was someone else. sometimes you will be in those positions but you need to find out where is the true one for you.the one you wanted and the one you promise in heaven you will meet again and find love together like God planned it. And you were made by God together and he knew you both and sent you together on mission and the plan he gave you. Were meant for both of you to do like Abraham and Sarah, to have many children as the stars. King Solomon and Queen Sheba who they met and King Solomon knew the secrets of love and together did good for both nations and God plan to help Solomon know what is love so he can write in psalm, proverbs, and Eccliastes to help women and men fidn true love like the song of songs.
 
How to find True Love Biblically ! Part 3:

It is all the plan of God and to find it and know which one is.


4. The tests. To find out you need to test to see if he was meant or she was meant and true love is there. The test may vary depending on the person. If he is the one you will make the test he will give it all up for you and he is the one he will support you in all th promblems. True love is that way. And other tests you will seperate and he will go with another and you will go with another. He will love ya he will go thru all the promblems and take you away swooping of your feet and stay together.

The other one he will be away but because of a promblem or he is stupid he will wait and pass 40 years and you will meet again and rekindle and found he is the one ! but stay together don't try and test with a death situation that he will love he will kill or hurt they happen but look for one because it could go wrong and bot lose thier love and die.

You will see the tests will come and sue those three and it will show you true love it could God will give you all three of them and see it si his plan but remember not aall of us were meant for man-women some are monks, some are soldiers and some are flowerist not all of us are part of this and you have to ask God to have it and pray and pray. he wil deliver.

5. True love wins at the end, You will see love goes thru everything and accomplish it all.
1 Corinthians 13:4-8
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.


8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.
True love will be tested by God. You have true love God will reveal to you that secret, the love God gives is part of his love in Heaven and true love is part of it. Pray to God and he will deliver and women who suffer to know what he wants will know that secret and find God's love in them and find the secret things of love in them. They will see God love is in all of us all and he loves you.

Find love and women can love he wants and love like Jesus. And have love he has in heaven to complete and to do the men-women-Jesus love-God realtionship to find that secret he wants.
 
How to find True Love Biblically ! Part 3:

It is all the plan of God and to find it and know which one is.


4. The tests. To find out you need to test to see if he was meant or she was meant and true love is there. The test may vary depending on the person. If he is the one you will make the test he will give it all up for you and he is the one he will support you in all th promblems. True love is that way. And other tests you will seperate and he will go with another and you will go with another. He will love ya he will go thru all the promblems and take you away swooping of your feet and stay together.

The other one he will be away but because of a promblem or he is stupid he will wait and pass 40 years and you will meet again and rekindle and found he is the one ! but stay together don't try and test with a death situation that he will love he will kill or hurt they happen but look for one because it could go wrong and bot lose thier love and die.

You will see the tests will come and sue those three and it will show you true love it could God will give you all three of them and see it si his plan but remember not aall of us were meant for man-women some are monks, some are soldiers and some are flowerist not all of us are part of this and you have to ask God to have it and pray and pray. he wil deliver.

5. True love wins at the end, You will see love goes thru everything and accomplish it all.
1 Corinthians 13:4-8
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.


8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.
True love will be tested by God. You have true love God will reveal to you that secret, the love God gives is part of his love in Heaven and true love is part of it. Pray to God and he will deliver and women who suffer to know what he wants will know that secret and find God's love in them and find the secret things of love in them. They will see God love is in all of us all and he loves you.

Find love and women can love he wants and love like Jesus. And have love he has in heaven to complete and to do the men-women-Jesus love-God realtionship to find that secret he wants.
So, are there other questions you have that you still need answers for? The Q&A forum is not intended to be used for a soapbox where you can make a presentation and not have to deal with counter arguments.
 
I apologize to you all, had a lot of work and in other forums debated and won. And like the conversation here let me answer your question, love the talk. But going thru all this and many people agree and many disagree ( haven't found love ) Everyone wants a simple answer and love is not simple.

But still God gave us love and I handle complicated study of the bible so many parts of the bible, freewill for example.

And we have freewill to choose to love or not to find true love.

The body is our temple and the temple of the body is holy.

Tell me Wip have you found true love ?
 
I apologize to you all, had a lot of work and in other forums debated and won. And like the conversation here let me answer your question, love the talk. But going thru all this and many people agree and many disagree ( haven't found love ) Everyone wants a simple answer and love is not simple.

But still God gave us love and I handle complicated study of the bible so many parts of the bible, freewill for example.

And we have freewill to choose to love or not to find true love.

The body is our temple and the temple of the body is holy.

Tell me Wip have you found true love ?
Yes, in Jesus Christ.
 
Here is true love described in scripture.

1Co 13:4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
1Co 13:5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
1Co 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

John 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
John 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

Eph 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
Eph 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it


Agape love is the fatherly love of God for humans, as well as the human reciprocal love for God. What brought me back to God when I was walking in a very dark time was this verse as Jesus wrapped His arms around me and held me in the most brilliant light and an overwhelming warmth of His great love He has for all His creation.

Deu 28:13 And the LORD shall make thee the head, and not the tail; and thou shalt be above only, and thou shalt not be beneath; if that thou hearken unto the commandments of the LORD thy God, which I command thee this day, to observe and to do them
 

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