[__ Science __ ] Ivermectin used in New York Hospitals

[JLB]

Ivermectin being allowed as a course of treatment in Erie County Hospitals

Monday, January 11, 2022 Ivermectin is a drug that has been around for 40 years and being used with great effect. Its been used with very few side effects to treat all manner of illnesses, including C

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[JLB]

 

[Barbarian]

New England Journal of Medicine

May 5, 2022
N Engl J Med 2022; 386:1721-1731
DOI: 10.1056/NEJMoa2115869

Results​

A total of 3515 patients were randomly assigned to receive ivermectin (679 patients), placebo (679), or another intervention (2157). Overall, 100 patients (14.7%) in the ivermectin group had a primary-outcome event, as compared with 111 (16.3%) in the placebo group (relative risk, 0.90; 95% Bayesian credible interval, 0.70 to 1.16). Of the 211 primary-outcome events, 171 (81.0%) were hospital admissions. Findings were similar to the primary analysis in a modified intention-to-treat analysis that included only patients who received at least one dose of ivermectin or placebo (relative risk, 0.89; 95% Bayesian credible interval, 0.69 to 1.15) and in a per-protocol analysis that included only patients who reported 100% adherence to the assigned regimen (relative risk, 0.94; 95% Bayesian credible interval, 0.67 to 1.35). There were no significant effects of ivermectin use on secondary outcomes or adverse events.

Conclusions​

Treatment with ivermectin did not result in a lower incidence of medical admission to a hospital due to progression of Covid-19 or of prolonged emergency department observation among outpatients with an early diagnosis of Covid-19. (Funded by FastGrants and the Rainwater Charitable Foundation; TOGETHER ClinicalTrials.gov number, NCT04727424. opens in new tab.)

 

[JLB]

New England Journal of Medicine

May 5, 2022
N Engl J Med 2022; 386:1721-1731
DOI: 10.1056/NEJMoa2115869

Results​

A total of 3515 patients were randomly assigned to receive ivermectin (679 patients), placebo (679), or another intervention (2157). Overall, 100 patients (14.7%) in the ivermectin group had a primary-outcome event, as compared with 111 (16.3%) in the placebo group (relative risk, 0.90; 95% Bayesian credible interval, 0.70 to 1.16). Of the 211 primary-outcome events, 171 (81.0%) were hospital admissions. Findings were similar to the primary analysis in a modified intention-to-treat analysis that included only patients who received at least one dose of ivermectin or placebo (relative risk, 0.89; 95% Bayesian credible interval, 0.69 to 1.15) and in a per-protocol analysis that included only patients who reported 100% adherence to the assigned regimen (relative risk, 0.94; 95% Bayesian credible interval, 0.67 to 1.35). There were no significant effects of ivermectin use on secondary outcomes or adverse events.

Conclusions​

Treatment with ivermectin did not result in a lower incidence of medical admission to a hospital due to progression of Covid-19 or of prolonged emergency department observation among outpatients with an early diagnosis of Covid-19. (Funded by FastGrants and the Rainwater Charitable Foundation; TOGETHER ClinicalTrials.gov number, NCT04727424. opens in new tab.)

People are being treated with Ivermectin in Hospitals today, and are recovering.


The Covid vaccine doesn’t work.





JLB

 

[Barbarian]

People are being treated with Ivermectin in Hospitals today, and are recovering.

The New England Journal of Medicine has more credibility than Rumble on medical issues. Actually, pretty much everything has more credibility than Rumble on almost all issues:

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[Barbarian]

The Covid vaccine doesn’t work.

Let's take a look...

Front Med 2022 Feb;16

A review of the safety and efficacy of current COVID-19 vaccines​

Vaccination is the most effective and feasible way to contain the Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic. The rapid development of effective COVID-19 vaccines is an extraordinary achievement. This study reviewed the efficacy/effectiveness, immunogenicity, and safety profile of the 12 most progressed COVID-19 vaccines and discussed the challenges and prospects of the vaccine-based approaches in a global crisis. Overall, most of the current vaccines have shown safety and efficacy/effectiveness during actual clinical trials or in the real-world studies, indicating a development of pandemic control.

 

[7thMoon]

Let's take a look...

Front Med 2022 Feb;16

A review of the safety and efficacy of current COVID-19 vaccines​

Vaccination is the most effective and feasible way to contain the Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic. The rapid development of effective COVID-19 vaccines is an extraordinary achievement. This study reviewed the efficacy/effectiveness, immunogenicity, and safety profile of the 12 most progressed COVID-19 vaccines and discussed the challenges and prospects of the vaccine-based approaches in a global crisis. Overall, most of the current vaccines have shown safety and efficacy/effectiveness during actual clinical trials or in the real-world studies, indicating a development of pandemic control.

Has anyone tried Aspirin or Ibuprofen then? The disease is not immune to everything, and I am highly skeptical that Ivermectin doesn't work.

And if it is just a cold, it could be related to a kidney condition (I find this to be a possibility), or treatable with of all things, food.

 

[7thMoon]

I must also state, like all vaccines, the covid vaccine is dangerous, and poorly labeled.

 

[Barbarian]

Has anyone tried Aspirin or Ibuprofen then? The disease is not immune to everything, and I am highly skeptical that Ivermectin doesn't work.

It comes down to evidence. And the NEJM is a pretty reliable source.

And if it is just a cold, it could be related to a kidney condition (I find this to be a possibility), or treatable with of all things, food.

But it's not. The viruses are entirely different.

 

[Barbarian]

I must also state, like all vaccines, the covid vaccine is dangerous, and poorly labeled.

Saved millions of lives. You might as well call seat belts dangerous. Want to learn about it?

 

[7thMoon]

Saved millions of lives. You might as well call seat belts dangerous. Want to learn about it?

The vaccine has killed many, and we don't know how it is made exactly or what is in it. Fauci will burn.

 

[jasonc]

If it was allowed ,I would have qualified months ago and the hospital staff who said to me we all have had covid twice or three times in the past couple of years . This time I triggered the asthma attack

 

[Barbarian]

The vaccine has killed many

Even most anti-vaxxers have given up that story. The death rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated people make it clear that such stories are faked.

, and we don't know how it is made exactly or what is in it.

Both are very well-documented for all the COVID-19 vaccines used in the United States. Would you like to see the details?

Fauci will burn.

It probably shouldn't shock me that anit-vaxxers have been making death threats against Fauci and his family, but it does. Those guys are a cult, and there is no reasoning with them or any moral argument that will sway them.

 

[7thMoon]

It probably shouldn't shock me that anit-vaxxers have been making death threats against Fauci and his family, but it does. Those guys are a cult, and there is no reasoning with them or any moral argument that will sway them.

Fauci will burn, because the evidence is much stronger than you think.

Covid-19 vaccines and previous vaccines do not have documentation on the packages. The transparency is poor, because nobody knows how a vaccine is supposed to work; other than something for a snake bite. Oh the irony.

 

[Consecrated Life]

New England Journal of Medicine

May 5, 2022
N Engl J Med 2022; 386:1721-1731
DOI: 10.1056/NEJMoa2115869

Results​

A total of 3515 patients were randomly assigned to receive ivermectin (679 patients), placebo (679), or another intervention (2157). Overall, 100 patients (14.7%) in the ivermectin group had a primary-outcome event, as compared with 111 (16.3%) in the placebo group (relative risk, 0.90; 95% Bayesian credible interval, 0.70 to 1.16). Of the 211 primary-outcome events, 171 (81.0%) were hospital admissions. Findings were similar to the primary analysis in a modified intention-to-treat analysis that included only patients who received at least one dose of ivermectin or placebo (relative risk, 0.89; 95% Bayesian credible interval, 0.69 to 1.15) and in a per-protocol analysis that included only patients who reported 100% adherence to the assigned regimen (relative risk, 0.94; 95% Bayesian credible interval, 0.67 to 1.35). There were no significant effects of ivermectin use on secondary outcomes or adverse events.

Conclusions​

Treatment with ivermectin did not result in a lower incidence of medical admission to a hospital due to progression of Covid-19 or of prolonged emergency department observation among outpatients with an early diagnosis of Covid-19. (Funded by FastGrants and the Rainwater Charitable Foundation; TOGETHER ClinicalTrials.gov number, NCT04727424. opens in new tab.)

No two patients are the same in health.
That is why when determining who will receive an organ transplant between two 68 year old patients doctors do not flip a coin , all things being equal, to make a decision. Underlying health conditions are ALWAYS the determining scientific factor.
Yet for the purpose of perpetuating a lie not once in this study is a mention of age,or the foundational health of one patient compared to the other given ?
Science being jettisoned to promote a lie.
This is the same foundational snake oil, bait & switch scam that has been played with covid from the get go.
The fact that you have a 27 year old "patient" in excellent health with covid is matched head to head with 78 year heavy life long smoker, afflicted with kidney dysfunction with covid is never mentioned .
The underlying health, age of all patients being the primary top secret consideration of the study, arranged behind the scenes to produce the desired outcome.
And for the consumption of people with puddin for brains.

 

[Free]

No two patients are the same in health.

Of course not. Some have worms.

That is why when determining who will receive an organ transplant between two 68 year old patients doctors do not flip a coin , all things being equal, to make a decision. Underlying health conditions are ALWAYS the determining scientific factor.
Yet for the purpose of perpetuating a lie not once in this study is a mention of age,or the foundational health of one patient compared to the other given ?
Science being jettisoned to promote a lie.
This is the same foundational snake oil, bait & switch scam that has been played with covid from the get go.
The fact that you have a 27 year old "patient" in excellent health with covid is matched head to head with 78 year heavy life long smoker, afflicted with kidney dysfunction with covid is never mentioned .
The underlying health, age of all patients being the primary top secret consideration of the study, arranged behind the scenes to produce the desired outcome.

Yet, you provide no evidence of anything. Do you think it is possible that for those for whom ivermectin supposedly worked, that they had worms and that was their underlying problem, making their bodies weaker and unable to fight COVID effectively?

And for the consumption of people with puddin for brains.

Comments like this need to stop.

 

[Barbarian]

The New England Journal of Medicine has more credibility than Rumble on medical issues. Actually, pretty much everything has more credibility than Rumble on almost all issues:

No two patients are the same in health.

Nevertheless, the data clearly shows that Rumble really misrepresented the facts.

That is why when determining who will receive an organ transplant between two 68 year old patients doctors do not flip a coin , all things being equal, to make a decision. Underlying health conditions are ALWAYS the determining scientific factor.

Which is why people are screened for vaccinations. Thought you knew. There are some people who should not be vaccinated.

Yet for the purpose of perpetuating a lie not once in this study is a mention of age,or the foundational health of one patient compared to the other given ?

Such studies always control for such factors. You didn't know that? As you should know, the New England Journal of Medicine has a very good reputation for accuracy and integrity. And as you also should know, Rumble is well-known for snowflakery and promoting faked conspiracy stories.

This is the same foundational snake oil, bait & switch scam that has been played with covid from the get go.

But no one with any sense would believe anything Rumble is selling, so it had relatively little effect on people of normal to higher intelligence.

The fact that you have a 27 year old "patient" in excellent health with covid is matched head to head with 78 year heavy life long smoker, afflicted with kidney dysfunction with covid is never mentioned .

Show us that, in the study protocol. You've trusted the wrong people.

The underlying health, age of all patients being the primary top secret consideration of the study,

But somehow, you're privy to all that top secret consideration? My, how important you must be.

Rumble's preferred prey is gullible people who think "they are all lying to me, all of them!"

arranged behind the scenes to produce the desired outcome.
And for the consumption of people with puddin for brains.

Mostly those who think medical journals are lying, and Rumble would never tell them anything that's not true.

 

[Barbarian]

Fauci will burn, because the evidence is much stronger than you think.

And only the cult knows the "real trooth"...
I suspect your education/experience in immunology is minimal or absent. If you knew more about it, you wouldn't be such easy prey for those guys.

Covid-19 vaccines and previous vaccines do not have documentation on the packages.

Not surprising. The documentation would fill a small book. I can't think of any medication that would have all of the documentation on the package. Can you? They do, however, follow FDA requirements on the packaging...

The transparency is poor, because nobody knows how a vaccine is supposed to work

It's pretty straightforward. The mRNA vaccines, for example:

Understanding COVID-19 mRNA Vaccines

mRNA vaccines inject cells with instructions to generate a protein that is normally found on the surface of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19.

www.genome.gov

Oh the irony.

Indeed.

 

[Consecrated Life]

No two patients are the same in health.

Yet for the purpose of perpetuating a lie not once in this study is a mention of age, or the foundational health of one patient compared to the other given ?
Science being jettisoned to promote a lie.
This is the same foundational snake oil, bait & switch scam that has been played with covid from the get go.

And for the consumption of people with puddin for brains.

Yet, you provide no evidence of anything.

The fact that the study is completely void of all foundational health or age of patients being compared one to the other , which you cannot dispute is the evidence .
All persons & their underlying conditions put forth as being equal for the purpose of politics, not medicine .
Just the way communists like all people being the same.
Except for themselves of course.
A study custom made not for the furthering of science , but for use by political hacks to promote agenda

 

[7thMoon]

And only the cult knows the "real trooth"...
I suspect your education/experience in immunology is minimal or absent. If you knew more about it, you wouldn't be such easy prey for those guys.


Not surprising. The documentation would fill a small book. I can't think of any medication that would have all of the documentation on the package. Can you? They do, however, follow FDA requirements on the packaging...

It's pretty straightforward. The mRNA vaccines, for example:

Understanding COVID-19 mRNA Vaccines

mRNA vaccines inject cells with instructions to generate a protein that is normally found on the surface of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19.

www.genome.gov

Everything except the ingredients. Notice the link talks about how the cells are infected, but the label doesn't.

Indeed.

Yes, in deed.

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