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When do they think this has happened?I just remember members saying they were partial preterist of preterist.
I am one, reba, synthesis, drew. what you are saying is call full preterism. none of that people I have mentioned believe that. post mil is that last line,Kathi, That's interesting because I don't know anyone on this forum who is a preterist.
As was recently stated in another thread, a preterist believes that Jesus already came for the last time, that The Great White Throne Judgement, the resurrection of the saints, everything has already happened.
They believe that this is it and that this earth through the preaching of the Gospel will gradually change into a place where all men will serve God. Some have the view that Christians through governing will be instrumental in this process.
When do they think this has happened?I just remember members saying they were partial preterist of preterist.
Kathi,
as you are discussing and studying preterism, please consider what Jesus stated about the armies surrounding Jerusalem that is associated with His return is not neccesarily the events of 70 AD, but rather what Zechariah prophesied about.
1 Behold, the day of the Lord is coming, And your spoil will be divided in your midst. 2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem; The city shall be taken, The houses rifled, And the women ravished. Half of the city shall go into captivity, But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city. 3 Then the Lord will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle. 4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east. And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two, From east to west, Making a very large valley; Half of the mountain shall move toward the north And half of it toward the south. 5 Then you shall flee through My mountain valley, For the mountain valley shall reach to Azal. Yes, you shall flee As you fled from the earthquake In the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Thus the Lord my God will come, And all the saints with You. 6 It shall come to pass in that day That there will be no light; The lights will diminish. 7 It shall be one day Which is known to the Lord-- Neither day nor night. But at evening time it shall happen That it will be light. Zechariah 14:1-7
Compare these words with what Jesus taught us in Matthew 24, and Luke 21.
The army that surrounds Jerusalem is associated with the time Jesus will return, not 70 AD.
Thanks, JLB
America was founded by a bunch of partial preterists. the Lutherans and the puritans and the Anglicans all were preterists some form or another.JLB. Kathi simply asked what full preterism is and partial preterism. Not the specific whys. I tried to be very careful not to infuse my own beliefs.
I believe she was asking because full preterism is considered heresy but partial preterism is not.
So my answer was to show her the difference, plain and simple. And that many church fathers believed what is called partial preterism today and we do not say they were heretics.
JLB. Kathi simply asked what full preterism is and partial preterism. Not the specific whys. I tried to be very careful not to infuse my own beliefs.
I believe she was asking because full preterism is considered heresy but partial preterism is not.
So my answer was to show her the difference, plain and simple. And that many church fathers believed what is called partial preterism today and we do not say they were heretics.
Isn't that a futurist like myself?Like most Preterist's will tell you, there is no such thing as a partial Preterist.
A Preterist believes everything is past.
Everyone else believes there is yet to be fulfilled certain scriptures.
JLB
Like most Preterist's will tell you, there is no such thing as a partial Preterist.
A Preterist believes everything is past.
Everyone else believes there is yet to be fulfilled certain scriptures.
JLB
Isn't that a futurist like myself?
an amillenialist is one who like me doesn't believe in the literal reign of a thousand years and general sees satan bound by the power of god via the church and other means of restraint. they also don't see the temple in Jerusalem being a jewish temple. in short. preterists usually are amil. though reba is post milWhat is the difference in Preterist and Amillennial?
an amillenialist is one who like me doesn't believe in the literal reign of a thousand years and general sees satan bound by the power of god via the church and other means of restraint. they also don't see the temple in Jerusalem being a jewish temple. in short. preterists usually are amil. though reba is post mil
full preterists tend to, but I was stating what a partial one believes.Jason it is my understanding that full preterists believe the millennium has already past, Christ has returned, the judgement has happened, and this is the new earth, which is in the process of being restored.
full preterists tend to, but I was stating what a partial one believes.
What is the difference in Preterist and Amillennial?