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Sola Scriptura to be nailed to the door of the apostate end time church.
Bible only, no extras, some Big letters used to overcome previous cases of paying little attention.

Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming,
and of the end of the world? Matt. 24:.3 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars:
see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the END is not yet. vs.6
But HE THAT shall endure unto the END, THE SAME shall be saved.

But the day of the lord will come as a thief in the night; IN THE WHICH the heavens shall pass
away with a GREAT NOISE, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also,
and the works that are therein shall be BURNED UP. 2 Peter 3:10.

For THEN shall be Great Tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time,
nor ever shall be.Matthew 24:21 . Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days, shall the sun
be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers
of the heavens shall be shaken: and THEN shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven, and THEN
shall the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven
with power and great glory." Matthew 24:29

Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou
shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon
thee. Rev 3:3 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments,
lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. Rev 16:15

But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that THAT DAY should overtake you as a thief. 1 Th 5:4 .
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel,
and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 1 Th 4:16

Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment,
in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised
incorruptible, and we shall be changed. I Cor. 15:51-52

Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the ONE SHALL BE TAKEN, and the other shall be left.
Two women shall be grinding together; the ONE SHALL BE TAKEN, and the other left.
Two men shall be in the field; the ONE SHALL BE TAKEN, and the other left.
And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them,
Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together. Luke 17:33-37

For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming
of the Son of man be. For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.Mat 24:27 -28
But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage,
until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and TOOK THEM ALL AWAY;
SO SHALL ALSO the coming of the Son of man be. Then shall two be in the field; THE ONE SHALL BE TAKEN,
and the other left.Two women shall be grinding at the mill; THE ONE SHALL BE TAKEN, and the other left.
Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. Mat 24:37-42

And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat,
they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until THE DAY that Noe entered into the ark,
and the flood came, and DESTROYED THEM ALL. Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they
did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the SAME DAY that Lot went out
of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and DESTROYED THEM ALL.
EVEN THUS SHALL IT BE in THE DAY when the Son of man is revealed. Luke 17:26-30

Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which
sowed good seed in his field: But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat,
and went his way. But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field?
from whence then hath it tares? He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him,
Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up
also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the
reapers, Gather ye together FIRST THE TARES, and bind them in bundles TO BURN THEM:
but gather the wheat into my barn. Mat 13:24-30

Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying,
Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field. He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the
good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom;
but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest
is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore THE TARES ARE GATHERED
and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels,
and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them
into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun
in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. Mat 13:36-43

SO SHALL IT BE at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and SEVER THE WICKED from among
the just, And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Mat 13:49-50

Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.
For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways. Psa 91:5-11

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and THE DEAD
SHALL BE RAISED incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 1 Corinthians 15:52  

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the
trump of God: and THE DEAD in Messiah shall RISE FIRST: Then we which are alive and remain shall be
caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
I Thes. 4:16-17

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them
that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast,
neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and
reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were
finished. THIS IS THE FIRST RESURRECTION. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in THE FIRST RESURRECTION:
on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him
a thousand years. Rev. 20:4-6



Witness 2) Brother Jim
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The Blessed Hope of the Christian is Eternal Life IN Christ Jesus.
The Blessed Hope is NOT that there will be freedom from persecution,
tribulation, pain, and suffering BEFORE the Return of the Lord Jesus
Christ, but AFTER.

Does AFTER mean at the beginning, middle, or end?

Mat 24:29-31 Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days shall
the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the
stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be
shaken: AND THEN shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven:
AND THEN shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, AND they shall see
the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great
glory. AND he shall send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet,
and they shall gather together His ELECT from the four winds, from
one end of heaven to the other.

Jesus says He will send His angels for His ELECT, NOT BEFORE the
tribulation, but Immediately AFTER. Jesus tells us it is IMMEDIATELY
AFTER the tribulation.

I Cor. 15:51-52 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all
sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of
an eye, at the LAST trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead
shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Notice the phrase "at the LAST trumpet", what does LAST mean?

The Spirit of Truth tells me that it refers to the last trumpet in
the book of Revelation, the seventh trumpet.

Rev. 11:15-19 And the SEVENTH angel sounded; and there were great
voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the
kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever
and ever. And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on
their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We
give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art
to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast
reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the
time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that THOU
SHOULDEST GIVE REWARD UNTO THY SERVANTS THE PROPHETS, AND TO THE
SAINTS, AND THEM THAT FEAR THY NAME, SMALL AND GREAT; and shouldest
destroy them which destroy the earth. And the temple of God was
opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his
testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings,
and an earthquake, and great hail.

This is the END of the great tribulation antichrist war on the
saints, when Christ's Kingdom is set up on the earth. In this
passage we see ALL saints, from Adam to you and me, and beyond, get
our reward of a glorified body at that time.

Rev. 20:1-6 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key
of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. And he laid
hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan,
and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless
pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should
deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be
fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. And I
saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto
them: AND I SAW THE SOULS OF THEM THAT WERE BEHEADED FOR THE WITNESS
OF JESUS, AND FOR THE WORD OF GOD, AND WHICH HAD NOT WORSHIPPED THE
BEAST, NEITHER HIS IMAGE, NEITHER HAD RECEIVED HIS MARK UPON THEIR
FOREHEADS, OR IN THEIR HANDS; and they lived and reigned with Christ
a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the
thousand years were finished. THIS IS THE FIRST RESURRECTION.
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the FIRST RESURRECTION: on
such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of
God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Indeed there is only ONE FIRST RESURRECTION. Clearly the word of God
speaks of the saints who are martyred during the great tribulation.
Look again and understand the 2nd half of Rev. 20:5b & 6, which says
explicitly, "This is the first resurrection." THERE IS ONLY ONE
FIRST RESURRECTION. If this resurrection at the END of the
tribulation is THE FIRST RESURRECTION, then how could it be 7, or
3.5 years earlier, when deceived pre-tribulation rapture teachers
continue to deceive regarding when the rapture occurs?

But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them
which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no
hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them
also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. For this we say
unto you by the word of the Lord, THAT WE WHICH ARE ALIVE AND REMAIN
UNTO THE COMING OF THE LORD shall not prevent them which are asleep.
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with
the voice of the archangel, and with THE (last or 7th) trump of God:
and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and
remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet
the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. (I Thes.
4:13-17)

The word of God states, and yes the GJiGT will say THUS SAITH THE
LORD - that the dead in Christ shall rise first. That is a
resurrection (a lot of people). We KNOW that Rev. 20:5b & 6, both
explicitly says that when the martyred, tribulation saints are
resurrected that it is the "FIRST RESURRECTION." Since that is
the "first resurrection" then the rapture has to happen a split
second later, at the END of the tribulation! Furthermore, thus saith
the Lord, Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but
we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at
the LAST trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be
raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. Yes, thus saith the
Lord, at the LAST trump, on the LAST Day, that is the timing of the
resurrection, rapture, and the Lord's return.

John 11:23-26 Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.
Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in THE
RESURRECTION at the LAST day. Jesus said unto her, I am the
resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were
dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me
shall never die. Believest thou this?

Please look at what Martha says, at the LAST day, and Jesus does not
correct her. Like it or not, regardless of whatever deceived
deceiver has said otherwise, thus saith the LORD, the first
resurrection is the one when those martyred during the Great
Tribulation are resurrected and then we which are alive will be
caught up in the air with Christ. This is commonly called
the "rapture".

Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus
Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon
shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor
by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no
man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except
there come a FALLING AWAY, (NOT RAPTURE THE FALLING AWAY IS FALLING
AWAY FROM THE FAITH - APOSTASY) FIRST, AND that man of sin be
revealed, the son of perdition; II Thes. 2: 1-3

Yeshua told us to - Remember the word that I said unto you, The
servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me,
they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will
keep yours also. Rev. 13:7 And it was given unto him (Antichrist) to
make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given
him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Consider Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, they did not even smell
like smoke Dan. 3: 27, They were NOT Raptured, they WERE PROTECTED.
God protected them IN the fire; He did not rescue them out of the
fire! If we look at the plagues that God brought on Egypt in Exodus,
they did not touch the Israelites, only Egypt. God did NOT take them
out - He PROTECTED them.

Matt. 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but
he that endureth to the END shall be saved.
Is the end the end?
Matt 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye
be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the END
is not yet.
Is the end the end?
Matt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the END, the same shall be
saved.
Is the end the end or what?
Matt 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all
the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the END
come.
Is the end the end, or what?

People believe what they CHOOSE to believe. I believe what Yeshua,
said - NO MATTER who says otherwise. If you agree with Jesus you are
right. If you disagree with Jesus you are wrong. Do you love the
TRUTH or do you love YOUR Doctrines?

I believe Jesus. I could go on and on to show that the Greek proves
that the ONLY parallel passage for Rev 3:10 is John 17:15 where
Jesus says "I pray NOT that thou shouldest take them out of the
world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. NOT TAKE
THEM OUT - PROTECT THEM, KEEP THEM. People believe what they choose
to believe. I believe Jesus, Yeshua, The TRUTH Personified, whose
Name is called the Word of God.

Brethren, I do hope this motivates you to press after that FAITH
which will endure to the END. Luke 18:8 I tell you that he will
avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall
he find faith on the earth?


Witness 3) Bro Final Call
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And this is indeed what is taking place...the church has fallen away..but ther will be an even GRATER falling very shortly.

Jesus said he would turn up at an hour when none expected him..how MANY times did He say this??

HEAPS...

And yet...you all EXPECT Him at any moment..which means he will NOT come while you look for him...(I am talking about the church in general)

In fact...times will wax worse and worse..the birthpangs will get stronger and stronger. You will think its the end but it isnt....and you will be looking for Jesus to come but He wont..because its not yet the end.

(Read Mathew 24..explains it all..he said.."IMMEDIATELEY AFTER the tribulation of THOSE DAYS the SIGN of the Soin of Man will appear in the heavens....and he will send His angels with the call of the trumpet..the LAST trumpet...to gather his ELECT..both the living and the dead)

Mark 13:24 Matt 24:7-12 and matt 24:29-31

Jesus will NOT come back when you EXPECT Him too..simple as that.


Many will fall away because they thought they would all be whisked off to heaven..they will turn on the preachers and kill them with their own hands..they will loose all faith in the way of christ because of the persecution and FALL AWAY...

But those who are awake...THEY will keep on going. God will look after those He has marked...and those He has marked will KNOW they are marked.

Remeber..its the TARES that get taken out FIRST...NOT the WHEAT (READ the parable of the harvests!!!! Its all there in black and white.)

Also....Remeber the parable of the net full of fish??? What did Jesus SAY about that??


FIRST he gathered the BAD fish out of the net...THEN he gathered up the good.'

No matter which parable you read..he ALWAYS takes out the WICKED from....AMONG the just FIRST!! NO exceptions.

Thats what he meant when he said we would stand and see the judgment of the wicked with our own eyes..1,000 will fall at your left and another 10,000 on your right..but..IT WILL NOT COME NEAR YOU..(That is..the judgement of the wicked. Even if you die..you DONT get their judgment..it just means that it was your time to die...remember he also said in Revelation...

HE who is to be taken into captivity..into captivity he will go..and He who is to die by the sword..with the sword he will be killed.

Everyone has a destiny....some will die as is appointed to them..and some will NOT..for the same reason.

Remeber the souls under thaltar?? WHAT were they SAYING??

WHEN Lord are you going to take revenge on those who have killed us?

THIS is what the lord sai in reply..

REST awhile until..(GET THIS)..THE NUMBER OF YOUR FELLOW SERVANTS WHO ARE TO BE KILLED AS YOU WERE IS COMPLETE!!

So..what does that tell you?

It simply means that YOU CANNOT AVOID YOUR DESTINY...if you are to die and be numbered as a martyr..then great..because the MARTYRS also get the best reward.

There are a certain number of you reading this NOW who are alated to die for Jesus...no getting away from it. And ther are some who are to be preserved to the end and be one of those whom paul spoke of...(THOSE who are (STILL) alive and REMAIN..shall be caught up to be with the Lord....

And WHEN does THIS happen?

AFTER the moon has turned to blood AFTER the TRIBULATION of THOSE days (Which we are in) and AFTER the antichrist has been revealed!!!

I cant understand WHY some people STILL think we will be raptured BEFORE it all..when JESUS said AGAIN AND AGAIN the PRECISE timing of events.

Some may use the verse...(one was taken and another left ect as speaking of the rapture) But if you READ it in its context you will see that the TAKING it is referring to is by DEATH.

....they knew not until the FLOOD came and....TOOK them all AWAY!!!!

IN the VERY next verse he clarifies it thus...(ONE will be grinding at the mill..one will be TAKEN (Killed suddenly)..and the other left...

The original translation used the SAME word for TAKEN AWAY as in KILLED..as the following verses did. Its only the likewarm feel good doctrines of today that totally IGNORE this fact..like a good cult DOES..in order to make it FIT what THEY want it to mean.

The birth pains will get sharper and sharper...the wars and rumours of war will get worse and worse..but remeber..he said..ITS NOT the END..for FIRST there must come a persecition....otherwise that space under the altar would be empty wouldnt it?

You see..He has special plans for those who give their lives for their testimony..I have seen it..and it will BLOW your MIND...so dont fear it...in fact..I would ASK that you be a martyr..for the reward is eternal..and so mindblowingly IMMENSE that if you KNEW what it was and what it entails..you would ALL be rushing to be one of that number.

This life is but a moment...and eternity..is FOREVER!!!! NO END...NOTHING we go through here can even be mentioned in the light of eternity.

STOP arguing about WHEN he comes...TAKE the word at WHAT IT ACTUALLY SAYS..because it TELLS you is simple terms WHEN to expect Him.

I know I will be here to see Him come..and..I wish I wasnt..because I know what the martyrs get. My own reward is good enough though..Ive seen that too..but OH...the martyrs...THEY will be SO blessed...far beyond anything you could imagine in your wildest dreams.

People..heaven is MASSIVE..so is the universe....there will be things to do in eternity that will blow your mind. God is NOT going to have us sitting around on clouds in bliss..there is a UNIVERSE to run..and so much more. EACH and EVERY ONE in heaven will be occupied FULL TIME FOREVER in the work and the responsabilities the Lord has planned for us.

Have you ever stopped to think about WHY we have to go through so much here?..because it BUILDS CHARACTER...he does NOT want whimpy uneducated weak saints running His universe..he wants STRING and WISE ones..those who are MATURE. So think of this life as training for the responsabilities of FOREVER...becaue ONCE you cross that line between time and eternity..there will be NO more opportunity to grow...you will take with you what you left earth with..and that is..YOUR CHARACTER..nothing else.

So stop this."Jesus will save us from hurting our little pinkies garbage..and GET ON WITH GETTING READY!!!
 
Nice discourse. With that being said, I am a "Sola Scriptura " person as well. Except for one thing. The Scripture also teaches there are other witnesses as well. God's Word is in the stars, in stone, and so forth, so say the Scriptures. They do not teach anything different than Scripture so in that sense Scripture is definitely adequate.

Think of the Bible as a Boy scout manual. The Manual says that he should listen to his leader. But a good leader only says what the scout manual says. Get the point?

So, I can look at the stars at night and know that the zodiac constellations (not the same as horoscopic astrology) tell the redemptive story of Christ seen by those without the Bible so that as the Bible says, they are "without excuse".....
 
Not being a pretribulationist, I tend to agree. But... there are other things to be considered and unfortunately scripture alone is not enough. :o yes, I said that! lol Cultural context and proper translation is important too.

Just a couple of things:

What was the "world" to a first century Hebrew?

... the "end" is the end of what? For instance, in Matthew 24:3, "and of the end of the world?" should say age, not world. Doesn't seem like a big deal at first, but other uses of the word aion shows it's primary meaning is "age". One could easily say Jesus is referring to the end of thier age, not the church age.

Last trump - IN Rev. the seventh trump, actually all seven, are angelic trumpets. In conjunction with 1 Thessalonians 4:16, 1 Corinthians 15:52 tells us this a trump of God, not an angelic trump. For further details, see: http://philologos.org/bpr/files/l002.htm

One of the reasons I bring up that last point is because I believe the Bible supports all the angelic trumps are of the Wrath of God. Rev 6:17 indicates the Wrath has come. The first trumpet occurs at Rev 8:7. So, if you believe the ekklesia is subject to God's Wrath (or some of it), I can understand why one would think the seventh Angelic trump is the Last Trump of 1 Corinthians 15:52. The Bible tells us we are not subject to ANY of God's wrath:

1 Thess 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

Just some food for thought. :angel:
 
Vic said,
Last trump - IN Rev. the seventh trump, actually all seven, are angelic trumpets. In conjunction with 1 Thessalonians 4:16, 1 Corinthians 15:52 tells us this a trump of God, not an angelic trump. For further details, see: http://philologos.org/bpr/files/l002.htm

One of the reasons I bring up that last point is because I believe the Bible supports all the angelic trumps are of the Wrath of God. Rev 6:17 indicates the Wrath has come. The first trumpet occurs at Rev 8:7. So, if you believe the ekklesia is subject to God's Wrath (or some of it), I can understand why one would think the seventh Angelic trump is the Last Trump of 1 Corinthians 15:52. The Bible tells us we are not subject to ANY of God's wrath:

1 Thess 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

Good point: angelic trumpets, versus the trump of God.

Good point on when the wrath of God starts: those that live through that earthquake at the 6th seal, know that the "day of the Lord," is imminent, and will be filled with His wrath. And of course we will be removed or will have "departed" or taken out of the way, before His wrath starts at the 7th seal. And surely you have noticed that just before that 7th seal is broken, two important events take place? The 144,000 MUST be sealed for protection, so that they will not feel His wrath, and the great crowd without number is seen in heaven. Hmm! Perfect timing to excape His wrath! It is the raptured church! When were they taken to heaven? My guess is at the great earthquake, the dead in Christ will rise!

Coop
 
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