The Two Witnesses Are Now Prophesying, and the Roman popes are the Antichrist

[ratoncillopaisa1986]

TAMMUZ 19, 5996 YB / TAMMUZ 19, 5783 AM / JULY 7, 2023 AD​

Today is now the 93rd day of the two witnesses of Revelation prophesying. Although they are now anointed and probably already establishing their two assemblies, they have not appeared to all humanity yet. But the signs of their appearance are here. The world is now in a global drought, which is gradually getting worse day by day. Even just the other day the news reported that it was the hottest day ever recorded, in average temperatures all over the earth. Yet there are hotter days to come. And the Jews are calling for the destruction of the Dome of the Rock and the construction of the third temple. Any day now one of the two witnesses of Revelation will destroy the Dome of the Rock, by the power of God. As it is written, "who are you, O great mountain? Before Zerubbabel you shall become a plain". Zechariah 4:7. And from that point in time all nations will come to hate Jerusalem and will eventually wage war against her and the Jews. As it is written, "behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of drunkenness to all the surrounding peoples. Judah will be besieged, as well as Jerusalem. On that day I will make Jerusalem a heavy stone for all the peoples. All who lift it will surely hurt themselves. And all the nations of the earth will gather against it". Zechariah 12:2-3. But during these final 3 years the Jews will succeed in building the third temple. Yet even so, some have asked me, if indeed the return of Yeshua is in such short time, where is the antichrist? Where is the mark of the beast? The antichrist that was foretold to come are the Roman kings, who were first called "emperors", but then were called "popes". The antichrist is not one single person, but a succession of authority occupied by one man after the other, which were the Roman kings, which were first called "emperors", then "popes". That is why the little horn of Daniel, which is the antichrist, grows in the context of the 4th beast, which was Rome. Even the current Roman pope today is also king, because Vatican City is the last remaining absolute monarchy on the earth. Each one has been the antichrist in their respective time, just under different names and titles. And the word "antichrist" is a mistranslation, because the original words in Greek mean "false anointed". The "antichrist" was not prophesied to come as a man that spoke against Yeshua, but rather, someone who came in the context of the belief in Yeshua. That is why Yeshua said, "for many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am anointed,’ and they will lead many astray". Matthew 24:5. The great deception of the Roman popes to the entire world is that the Torah of Moses no longer needs to be obeyed, hence the reason he is also called the "man of lawlessness" by the scriptures. "Lawlessness" in Greek means "without Torah". Even though the Roman popes do teach belief in Yeshua, but belief in Yeshua without obedience to the Torah of Moses is useless. Which is why Yeshua said, "many will say to me, ‘Master, Master', but I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you, depart from me, you workers of torahlessness". Matthew 7:22-23. As such, Titus, who later became emperor of Rome, was the Roman king that desecrated the temple of God in fulfillment of prophecy, and setup an image of Caesar at the temple, who was also previously a king of Rome, which was the abomination of desolation of Daniel. This prophecy was already fulfilled long ago, and the writings of Josephus confirms this. "So he introduced effigies of Caesar, which were upon the ensigns, and brought them into the city, whereas our law forbids us the very making of images". The Antiquities by the Jews by Flavius Josephus, Book 18, 3:1. "The Romans upon the flight of the seditious into the city, and upon the burning of the set-apart house itself, and of all the buildings lying round about it, brought their ensigns to the Temple, and set them over against its eastern gate. And there did they offer sacrifices to them, and there did they make Titus imperator, with the greatest acclamations of joy". The Wars of the Jews by Flavius Josephus, Book 6, 6:1. "For indeed the Roman religion is entirely martial, for they worship their ensigns, and swear by their ensigns, and pay greater respects to their ensigns more than to any other god whatsoever.". Apologetic by Tertullian, Chapter 16. "He will exalt himself and defy everything that people call god and every object of worship. He will even tarry at the temple of God, claiming that he himself is God". 2 Thessalonians 2:4. "So when you see standing at the set-apart place ‘the abomination of desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel, let the reader understand, then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains". Matthew 24:15-20. "When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains". Luke 21:20-24. And then came the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple, as Daniel prophesied would happen in the context of the abomination of desolation being set up. And then through the Roman popes, which were kings, the entire world was deceived into believing a false gospel that discards obedience to the Torah of Moses, which today is called "Catholicism" with its many denominations, which then brought forth "Protestantism" with its many denominations. These are false religions. The one true religion of God is "Judaism", with belief in Yeshua. And as kings having authority, the Roman popes persecuted the people of God for 1,260 years, which is 42 prophetic months. And then through Vatican City, in Rome, all nations of the earth were subjected into a global financial system of paper money and fiat currency, which are the true mark of the beast of Revelation, for these are false weights. Anyone who accepts paper money and fiat currency has already received the mark of the beast and is cursed. The only way to lift the curse is by renouncing and getting rid of all paper money and fiat currency once and for all. So there is no future one world government nor future one world currency nor future cashless society nor future antichrist that has not yet come nor future microchips implanted on the hand, but rather, what we see now around us is the final form of what was prophesied to be, and only 3 years are now left until the return of Yeshua. The last remaining nation that was prophesied to form in these final 3 years is the "United States of Europe", which will be a new nation that will form and will be given authority by 10 nations that will become states for that new federation. And that will be the final manifestation of the 1st beast of Revelation, and will be the revived Roman empire. Yet only 15 days after it is formed, it will collapse, because they will destroy Vatican City, and her destruction will be their collapse as well. And then around 6 months later after the destruction of Vatican City will be the second coming of Yeshua.

 

[hawkman]

And then through Vatican City, in Rome, all nations of the earth were subjected into a global financial system of paper money and fiat currency, which are the true mark of the beast of Revelation, for these are false weights. Anyone who accepts paper money and fiat currency has already received the mark of the beast and is cursed. The only way to lift the curse is by renouncing and getting rid of all paper money and fiat currency once and for all.

Once you receive the mark of the beast there is no coming back to God .
Rev14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Would you like for us to send all our nasty fiat money to you so you can take care of it for us ?

 

[Paul Timothy]

Once you receive the mark of the beast there is no coming back to God .
Rev14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Would you like for us to send all our nasty fiat money to you so you can take care of it for us ?

Where did your interest in fiat currency become part of Revelation?

 

[hawkman]

Where did your interest in fiat currency become part of Revelation?

From post #1 , just asking a question . Never even considered it till today .

 

[Paul Timothy]

From post #1 , just asking a question . Never even considered it till today .

I didn't see the cash issue in the op but 8 finding hard to read unformatted text.

 

[hawkman]

I didn't see the cash issue in the op but 8 finding hard to read unformatted text.

It is a tough read .

 

[Anaphora]

The two witnesses of revelation chapter 11 are not here yet. The antichrist is not here yet. The tribulation is 5 month period, revelation chapter 9. The time was shortened from 7 years to 5 months.
Were in 5th trump. The antichrist and two witnesses arrive at the 6th trump.
Revelation chapter 13 clearly states thier will be a deadly wound to the political system. Antichrist will heal deadly wound by establishing world peace. It turns to one world religious system.
I documented this. The two sons of oil and antichrist are not here yet.

 

[for_his_glory]

ratoncillopaisa1986 what sources are you using for this article as you are all over the place with several topics in one and hard to discuss with you unless one would break each one down to discuss individually.

Revelation 11

Zechariah 4:1-6; 4:11-14 explains that these two witnesses are the word of God in all power and might and the Holy Spirit which is the oil that is poured out on those who God anoints with His Holy Spirit. There are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit that are one and three that bear witness in earth as being the Holy Spirit, the word and the blood of Jesus and these three agree in one, 1 John 5:7, 8. Only God can give power to act on His word as the Holy Spirit and Jesus bare witness to Gods power and authority especially through signs and wonders.

God exercises His power and authority through those of His great commission of Matthew 28:18-20 who are sealed by the Holy Spirit, 2 Corinthians 1:22, who have accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior. The sackcloth represents the anguish of Gods servants as they remain humbled before the Lord while baring witness to Gods wrath on the unrighteous as these witnesses go forth continuing to preach to the nations.

Zechariah 4 speaks of two olive trees, but only one candlestick in the Old Testament. In this study we read there are two candlesticks. The two olive trees are the two anointed ones as being the two witnesses that are the Holy Spirit whom discerns and confirms the word of God in us by teaching us all truths, John 14:26, and Jesus being the light that shines in darkness as being the word made flesh to walk among us, John 1:1-5.

John is given the understanding that the two witnesses are in comparison to the two candlesticks and two olive trees, which if you read Zechariah Chapter 4 it explains that the golden candlestick is God. The seven lamps with the seven pipes that holds the oil (anointing) is that of the seven Spirits of God given to His Church: wisdom, understanding, counsel, knowledge, reverence, might and Spirit of the Lord, Isaiah 11:2.

The two olive trees are to groups of people. One group being natural Israel (Old Testament) as a remnant according to the election of grace have been saved as in the 144,000 taken from the twelve tribes of Israel that remained faithful to God up to a thousand generations thereafter that remain faithful, 1 Chronicles 16:13-17. The other being Gentiles (New Testament) grafted into the branch by that same grace of God that have been washed in the blood of the Lamb and sealed by His Holy Spirit, John 3:3-7; Romans 10:9, 10; 2 Corinthians 1:22; Romans Chapter 11. The two witnesses have always been those who of faith have stood by God and His law in the Old Testament and those of faith who stand by God and Jesus under the dispensation of grace in the New Testament.

The Disciples were sent out to preach to the lost sheep of Israel, Matthew 10:5, 6 and Paul to the Gentiles, Acts 22:21, and so the same with these two witnesses throughout the generations as being two groups, one taking the Gospel to the lost sheep of Israel and the other group taking the Gospel to the Gentiles until Christ returns. They will be persecuted to death as Jesus was and all the martyr's before them and their bodies will lay in the street for three and a half days and then the Spirit of life from God will enter them and they will be caught up to heaven in a cloud, 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. This will all occur during the seventh trumpet sounding as I believe all events during this time will happen quickly like 1 Corinthians 15:52 says in a twinkling of an eye we will all be changed and then caught up to Jesus during the seventh trumpet call.



Key points in Rev 11 about the two witnesses:

vs. 5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. 6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

Compare these two verses with that of 1 Kings Chapter 18 where Elijah called on the Lord and He sent fire down from heaven and consumed the sacrifice. I'm not saying Elijah is one of the two witnesses, just making a comparison of the fire called down from heaven. Here we read these have power as I believe it is the same power Elijah had when he called on God to send fire down, but here even more than fire as in stopping the rain, turning water into blood and smite the earth with plagues. This is also the same power Moses had over Pharaoh, in Exodus 7-11

vs. 7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. 8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. 9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

The beast out of the bottomless pit in Rev 9:1-12 seem to be literal locust. The star John saw that fell from heaven and having the key to open the bottomless pit is Apollyon (destroyer) who is probably the same angel we read about in Revelation 20:1-3 that God gives the key to that opens the bottomless pit Satan will be shut up in. When the bottomless pit was opened locust came up out of it. In reference to smoke these locust would be to numerous to number, Judges 7:12, and look like dark smoke as they rise and swarm if you saw them from a distance. Once they became closer to your vision you would see that it wasn’t smoke, but a hoard of locust. Their attributes of what God is purposing them for is what gives them their power to sting as in tormenting those who have not the seal of God on them. They are compared as scorpions that literally sting using the power of their tails as they raise them above their head.

Again we see the mention of the bottomless pit in Rev 11:7 as here it says beast. Locust can be considered beast of torment, but in this scenerio God purposes them to kill the two witnesses. Their dead bodies lie in the street of the great city that is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt. The great city could be symbolic for every nation in the world as at this time in the end of days mystery Babylon with its Luciferian economic, political, military, environmental and religious system will be established in every nation on earth, as even now it is being implemented. Babylon was called the great city in Rev 14:8 and we read in Rev 19 that Jesus will destroy this great city that is called mystery Babylon.

One clue that the two witnesses are not just two people or two angels is that Jesus was not crucified in Jerusalem, but in a place called Golgotha just outside of Jerusalem, which in Aramaic means place of the skull. The second clue that it is not just two witnesses is the street is not localized or named because all the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. I believe the 3 1/2 days are a reference to the 3 1/2 years when the son of perdition takes a literal seat on the very foundation where the Temple was destroyed in 70 A.D. and now stands the Dome of the Rock since 691 A.D and even now is being refurbished for the man of sin who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12.

My take is that the two witnesses according to Zechariah 4 and being this is a world wide event as in all nations when they come to preach during the last 3 1/2 years are that of the Jews, (like the Disciples) who are to continue their commission to preach the Gospel to the lost sheep of Israel, Matthew 10:5-7 as Jews throughout the world have not yet accepted Jesus as Messiah. Paul on the other hand was called to preach the Gospel to the Gentiles, Acts 22:21, as well as the Gentiles who are called at this time to preach the Gospel in all nations only to the lost Gentiles.

 

[ratoncillopaisa1986]

ratoncillopaisa1986 what sources are you using for this article as you are all over the place with several topics in one and hard to discuss with you unless one would break each one down to discuss individually.

Revelation 11

Zechariah 4:1-6; 4:11-14 explains that these two witnesses are the word of God in all power and might and the Holy Spirit which is the oil that is poured out on those who God anoints with His Holy Spirit. There are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit that are one and three that bear witness in earth as being the Holy Spirit, the word and the blood of Jesus and these three agree in one, 1 John 5:7, 8. Only God can give power to act on His word as the Holy Spirit and Jesus bare witness to Gods power and authority especially through signs and wonders.

God exercises His power and authority through those of His great commission of Matthew 28:18-20 who are sealed by the Holy Spirit, 2 Corinthians 1:22, who have accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior. The sackcloth represents the anguish of Gods servants as they remain humbled before the Lord while baring witness to Gods wrath on the unrighteous as these witnesses go forth continuing to preach to the nations.

Zechariah 4 speaks of two olive trees, but only one candlestick in the Old Testament. In this study we read there are two candlesticks. The two olive trees are the two anointed ones as being the two witnesses that are the Holy Spirit whom discerns and confirms the word of God in us by teaching us all truths, John 14:26, and Jesus being the light that shines in darkness as being the word made flesh to walk among us, John 1:1-5.

John is given the understanding that the two witnesses are in comparison to the two candlesticks and two olive trees, which if you read Zechariah Chapter 4 it explains that the golden candlestick is God. The seven lamps with the seven pipes that holds the oil (anointing) is that of the seven Spirits of God given to His Church: wisdom, understanding, counsel, knowledge, reverence, might and Spirit of the Lord, Isaiah 11:2.

The two olive trees are to groups of people. One group being natural Israel (Old Testament) as a remnant according to the election of grace have been saved as in the 144,000 taken from the twelve tribes of Israel that remained faithful to God up to a thousand generations thereafter that remain faithful, 1 Chronicles 16:13-17. The other being Gentiles (New Testament) grafted into the branch by that same grace of God that have been washed in the blood of the Lamb and sealed by His Holy Spirit, John 3:3-7; Romans 10:9, 10; 2 Corinthians 1:22; Romans Chapter 11. The two witnesses have always been those who of faith have stood by God and His law in the Old Testament and those of faith who stand by God and Jesus under the dispensation of grace in the New Testament.

The Disciples were sent out to preach to the lost sheep of Israel, Matthew 10:5, 6 and Paul to the Gentiles, Acts 22:21, and so the same with these two witnesses throughout the generations as being two groups, one taking the Gospel to the lost sheep of Israel and the other group taking the Gospel to the Gentiles until Christ returns. They will be persecuted to death as Jesus was and all the martyr's before them and their bodies will lay in the street for three and a half days and then the Spirit of life from God will enter them and they will be caught up to heaven in a cloud, 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. This will all occur during the seventh trumpet sounding as I believe all events during this time will happen quickly like 1 Corinthians 15:52 says in a twinkling of an eye we will all be changed and then caught up to Jesus during the seventh trumpet call.



Key points in Rev 11 about the two witnesses:

vs. 5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. 6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

Compare these two verses with that of 1 Kings Chapter 18 where Elijah called on the Lord and He sent fire down from heaven and consumed the sacrifice. I'm not saying Elijah is one of the two witnesses, just making a comparison of the fire called down from heaven. Here we read these have power as I believe it is the same power Elijah had when he called on God to send fire down, but here even more than fire as in stopping the rain, turning water into blood and smite the earth with plagues. This is also the same power Moses had over Pharaoh, in Exodus 7-11

vs. 7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. 8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. 9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

The beast out of the bottomless pit in Rev 9:1-12 seem to be literal locust. The star John saw that fell from heaven and having the key to open the bottomless pit is Apollyon (destroyer) who is probably the same angel we read about in Revelation 20:1-3 that God gives the key to that opens the bottomless pit Satan will be shut up in. When the bottomless pit was opened locust came up out of it. In reference to smoke these locust would be to numerous to number, Judges 7:12, and look like dark smoke as they rise and swarm if you saw them from a distance. Once they became closer to your vision you would see that it wasn’t smoke, but a hoard of locust. Their attributes of what God is purposing them for is what gives them their power to sting as in tormenting those who have not the seal of God on them. They are compared as scorpions that literally sting using the power of their tails as they raise them above their head.

Again we see the mention of the bottomless pit in Rev 11:7 as here it says beast. Locust can be considered beast of torment, but in this scenerio God purposes them to kill the two witnesses. Their dead bodies lie in the street of the great city that is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt. The great city could be symbolic for every nation in the world as at this time in the end of days mystery Babylon with its Luciferian economic, political, military, environmental and religious system will be established in every nation on earth, as even now it is being implemented. Babylon was called the great city in Rev 14:8 and we read in Rev 19 that Jesus will destroy this great city that is called mystery Babylon.

One clue that the two witnesses are not just two people or two angels is that Jesus was not crucified in Jerusalem, but in a place called Golgotha just outside of Jerusalem, which in Aramaic means place of the skull. The second clue that it is not just two witnesses is the street is not localized or named because all the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. I believe the 3 1/2 days are a reference to the 3 1/2 years when the son of perdition takes a literal seat on the very foundation where the Temple was destroyed in 70 A.D. and now stands the Dome of the Rock since 691 A.D and even now is being refurbished for the man of sin who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12.

My take is that the two witnesses according to Zechariah 4 and being this is a world wide event as in all nations when they come to preach during the last 3 1/2 years are that of the Jews, (like the Disciples) who are to continue their commission to preach the Gospel to the lost sheep of Israel, Matthew 10:5-7 as Jews throughout the world have not yet accepted Jesus as Messiah. Paul on the other hand was called to preach the Gospel to the Gentiles, Acts 22:21, as well as the Gentiles who are called at this time to preach the Gospel in all nations only to the lost Gentiles.

The two witnesses are two literal prophets.

 

[for_his_glory]

The two witnesses are two literal prophets.

Can you show us the scripture that points that out in specifics?

 

[ratoncillopaisa1986]

Can you show us the scripture that points that out in specifics?

"..these two prophets.." Revelation 11:10.

 

[for_his_glory]

"..these two prophets.." Revelation 11:10.

These two witnesses that will be sent from God are His two witnesses as they will be preaching to the world and those who are tormented by them are those who have rejected God and His Son Christ Jesus.

When you learn what the two olive trees and the two candlesticks are then you will understand who these two witnesses are.

Zechariah 4:1-6; 4:11-14 explains that these two witnesses are the word of God in all power and might and the Holy Spirit which is the oil that is poured out on those who God anoints with His Holy Spirit. There are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit that are one and three that bear witness in earth as being the Holy Spirit, the word and the blood of Jesus and these three agree in one, 1 John 5:7, 8. Only God can give power to act on His word as the Holy Spirit and Jesus bare witness to Gods power and authority especially through signs and wonders.

God exercises His power and authority through those of His great commission of Matthew 28:18-20 who are sealed by the Holy Spirit, 2 Corinthians 1:22, who have accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior. The sackcloth represents the anguish of Gods servants as they remain humbled before the Lord while baring witness to Gods wrath on the unrighteous as these witnesses go forth continuing to preach to the nations.

Zechariah 4 speaks of two olive trees, but only one candlestick in the Old Testament. In this study we read there are two candlesticks. The two olive trees are the two anointed ones as being the two witnesses that are the Holy Spirit whom discerns and confirms the word of God in us by teaching us all truths, John 14:26, and Jesus being the light that shines in darkness as being the word made flesh to walk among us, John 1:1-5.

John is given the understanding that the two witnesses are in comparison to the two candlesticks and two olive trees, which if you read Zechariah Chapter 4 it explains that the golden candlestick is God. The seven lamps with the seven pipes that holds the oil (anointing) is that of the seven Spirits of God given to His Church: wisdom, understanding, counsel, knowledge, reverence, might and Spirit of the Lord, Isaiah 11:2.

The two olive trees are to groups of people. One group being natural Israel (Old Testament) as a remnant according to the election of grace have been saved as in the 144,000 taken from the twelve tribes of Israel that remained faithful to God up to a thousand generations thereafter that remain faithful, 1 Chronicles 16:13-17. The other being Gentiles (New Testament) grafted into the branch by that same grace of God that have been washed in the blood of the Lamb and sealed by His Holy Spirit, John 3:3-7; Romans 10:9, 10; 2 Corinthians 1:22; Romans Chapter 11. The two witnesses have always been those who of faith have stood by God and His law in the Old Testament and those of faith who stand by God and Jesus under the dispensation of grace in the New Testament.

 

[ratoncillopaisa1986]

These two witnesses that will be sent from God are His two witnesses as they will be preaching to the world and those who are tormented by them are those who have rejected God and His Son Christ Jesus.

When you learn what the two olive trees and the two candlesticks are then you will understand who these two witnesses are.

Zechariah 4:1-6; 4:11-14 explains that these two witnesses are the word of God in all power and might and the Holy Spirit which is the oil that is poured out on those who God anoints with His Holy Spirit. There are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit that are one and three that bear witness in earth as being the Holy Spirit, the word and the blood of Jesus and these three agree in one, 1 John 5:7, 8. Only God can give power to act on His word as the Holy Spirit and Jesus bare witness to Gods power and authority especially through signs and wonders.

God exercises His power and authority through those of His great commission of Matthew 28:18-20 who are sealed by the Holy Spirit, 2 Corinthians 1:22, who have accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior. The sackcloth represents the anguish of Gods servants as they remain humbled before the Lord while baring witness to Gods wrath on the unrighteous as these witnesses go forth continuing to preach to the nations.

Zechariah 4 speaks of two olive trees, but only one candlestick in the Old Testament. In this study we read there are two candlesticks. The two olive trees are the two anointed ones as being the two witnesses that are the Holy Spirit whom discerns and confirms the word of God in us by teaching us all truths, John 14:26, and Jesus being the light that shines in darkness as being the word made flesh to walk among us, John 1:1-5.

John is given the understanding that the two witnesses are in comparison to the two candlesticks and two olive trees, which if you read Zechariah Chapter 4 it explains that the golden candlestick is God. The seven lamps with the seven pipes that holds the oil (anointing) is that of the seven Spirits of God given to His Church: wisdom, understanding, counsel, knowledge, reverence, might and Spirit of the Lord, Isaiah 11:2.

The two olive trees are to groups of people. One group being natural Israel (Old Testament) as a remnant according to the election of grace have been saved as in the 144,000 taken from the twelve tribes of Israel that remained faithful to God up to a thousand generations thereafter that remain faithful, 1 Chronicles 16:13-17. The other being Gentiles (New Testament) grafted into the branch by that same grace of God that have been washed in the blood of the Lamb and sealed by His Holy Spirit, John 3:3-7; Romans 10:9, 10; 2 Corinthians 1:22; Romans Chapter 11. The two witnesses have always been those who of faith have stood by God and His law in the Old Testament and those of faith who stand by God and Jesus under the dispensation of grace in the New Testament.

They are also called the two olives because one will be a Gentile and the son of Israel. And they are also called the two lampstands because they will each establish one assembly in two different cities in the world. Their two assemblies will be perfect, like the two assemblies in Revelation.

 

[for_his_glory]

They are also called the two olives because one will be a Gentile and the son of Israel. And they are also called the two lampstands because they will each establish one assembly in two different cities in the world. Their two assemblies will be perfect, like the two assemblies in Revelation.

Do you have scripture to back this up, and who is the son of Israel?

 

[ratoncillopaisa1986]

Do you have scripture to back this up, and who is the son of Israel?

Yes. Because since the two witnesses are two literal prophets, when the scriptures call them the two olives, it means to say one will be a Gentile and the other will be a son of Israel. Because that is what the two olives stand for in scripture, the Gentiles and Israel. And in Revelation the 7 lampstands represent 7 assemblies in 7 different cities. So when the scripture calls them "2 lampstands", it means to say they will also establish two assemblies.

 

[Paul Timothy]

Yes. Because since the two witnesses are two literal prophets, when the scriptures call them the two olives, it means to say one will be a Gentile and the other will be a son of Israel. Because that is what the two olives stand for in scripture, the Gentiles and Israel. And in Revelation the 7 lampstands represent 7 assemblies in 7 different cities. So when the scripture calls them "2 lampstands", it means to say they will also establish two assemblies.

You got names to go with your descriptions? Care to share?

 

[for_his_glory]

Yes. Because since the two witnesses are two literal prophets, when the scriptures call them the two olives, it means to say one will be a Gentile and the other will be a son of Israel. Because that is what the two olives stand for in scripture, the Gentiles and Israel. And in Revelation the 7 lampstands represent 7 assemblies in 7 different cities. So when the scripture calls them "2 lampstands", it means to say they will also establish two assemblies.

The seven golden lampstands in Rev refers to the seven churches in Asia that John wrote these letters to in the first three chapters. In Rev 1:1-4; 4:5 the seven lamps of fire are the seven Spirits of God, also mentioned in Isaiah 11:2 being the Spirit of the Lord, wisdom, understanding, counsel, power, knowledge and fear (respect) of the Lord. These messages were first given to the seven churches in Asia, but also for every church from that time forth that is truly of God for instructions and corrections that the body of Christ are all in unison with the Spirit of God.

Rev 11 never mentions that these two witnesses are actually two different people nor that one is a Jew and another a Gentile, especially according to Galatians 3:28-29 and Rev 11:13-14 as they are sent to speak prophecy to the world for a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

 

[Elteqay]

The seven golden lampstands in Rev refers to the seven churches in Asia that John wrote these letters to in the first three chapters. In Rev 1:1-4; 4:5 the seven lamps of fire are the seven Spirits of God, also mentioned in Isaiah 11:2 being the Spirit of the Lord, wisdom, understanding, counsel, power, knowledge and fear (respect) of the Lord. These messages were first given to the seven churches in Asia, but also for every church from that time forth that is truly of God for instructions and corrections that the body of Christ are all in unison with the Spirit of God.

Rev 11 never mentions that these two witnesses are actually two different people nor that one is a Jew and another a Gentile, especially according to Galatians 3:28-29 and Rev 11:13-14 as they are sent to speak prophecy to the world for a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

I agree Revelation 11 doesn't say two people but two olive tress and two menoroth meaning two Assemblies.

My belief is this is an Eliyah and Mosheh ministry....it is Two Assemblies all over the world preaching judgment and repentance and these folks will have the power of Yahuah Tsevaoth to stop the rain and turn rivers to blood. Preaching in sackcloth means they are in their natural bodies. This is my study and opinion of Revelation 11.

 

[for_his_glory]

I agree Revelation 11 doesn't say two people but two olive tress and two menoroth meaning two Assemblies.

My belief is this is an Eliyah and Mosheh ministry....it is Two Assemblies all over the world preaching judgment and repentance and these folks will have the power of Yahuah Tsevaoth to stop the rain and turn rivers to blood. Preaching in sackcloth means they are in their natural bodies. This is my study and opinion of Revelation 11.

What/who is Eliyah and Mosheh ministry and who is Yahuah Tsevaoth? What religion is this?

Sackcloth in scripture is usually made of black goat hair used by the Israelites in times of mourning's or social protest.

 

[Dave Watchman]

But the signs of their appearance are here. The world is now in a global drought, which is gradually getting worse day by day. Even just the other day the news reported that it was the hottest day ever recorded, in average temperatures all over the earth.

I agree that the signs of their appearances are here.

But it's not a global drought of water.

Check out the guy from the start of the video this week.

Sitting at a cafe.

Looking down at the flood water rushing by.

If he fell in, it would sweep him all away, Lol.

They won't see any problem.

Like in the days of Noah, until the flood comes and sweeps them all away.

I'm very sure that we can know the timing for this, and that there can be no mistake about it. But that the time to post the empirical is past. There's a way that we can be much more precise about knowing the time and the season that we're in than counting 6000 years from creation. You did pretty good at it. I agree that 2026 is a thing. January 2026. But it won't go all the way to then. Like it didn't reach all the way to 34AD. It has to happen before then. It has to be happening now. There's not enough time remaining for a 1260 day tribulation.

The Two Witnesses were just here. They had to be. Price action makes for market commentary. The Prophetic Time period forces them to be something other than what the Hal Lindsey model suggested them to be to us. The Beast, Satan, the one that ascended from the bottomless pit, has already made war on them, and killed them. Their bodies are lying dead in the street right now. The 3.5 days are 3.5 years. It's happening now. The Two Witnesses were the personification of seemingly inanimate objects. Like that phrase in the U.S., of how a "bill" was killed in congress. The Two Witnesses had to be killed sometime prior to Friday June 24, 2022. Because the Beast's authority is ending too. John has finished measuring the inner court. We are in the night when no man can work.

Think of the Two Witnesses as the two Olive Trees and the two Lamp Stands. Two of one thing, and two of another. The Holy Spirit, and the Bible. The Law, and the Prophets. The OT, and the NT. The fire that comes out from their mouths is the fire that comes out of the mouth of the Holy Spirit inspired Bible on judgment day and destroys their enemies. That is how they are doomed to be killed. The Bible SPEAKS of fire that will fill the earth some day.

"They have the power to shut the sky, that no rain may fall during the days of their prophesying,​

This is the symbolic rain that James was speaking of. From the mouth of James 5:7 says:

“Be patient, therefore, beloved until the coming of the Lord. The farmer waits for the precious crop from the earth, being patient with it until it receives the early and the late rains.”​

The early and latter rains symbolize spiritual blessings from above which help nourish and soften our hearts so that we may grow in Christ. Spiritual blessings include the gift of the Holy Spirit and the truth of Scriptures. The early rains began when our Lord and the apostles went out to preach the Gospel to the world. These truths were like blessed rain pouring down upon the dry land (parched without God’s truth).

We are now just past the days of the latter rains (a time of a great increase of knowledge respecting the Bible and Bible prophecies). The Gospel of the Kingdom has reached, and been preached to all the nations. We are at the end which has come. The land remains parched without God's truth. The land, the Earth, will vomit out its inhabitants.

We are deep now into the seals, the trumpets and the vials. Like you noted, this week the planet has broken temperature records. Florida has set an all time high in sea water temperature this week of over 101 Fahrenheit, over 38 Celsius.

The sun has been given the power to scorch men.

"The fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and the sun was given power to scorch people with fire. They were seared by the intense heat and they cursed the name of God, who had control over these plagues, but they refused to repent and glorify him.​

The signs were all subtle. So that they could be easily dismissed, for those who are not willing to accept it. Or for those who are perishing. And so that even though we are not in darkness so that that day should overtake us as a thief, the Son of Man will still be able to come like a thief, to come at an hour that we do not expect. It had to be that way.

Think about it like if Moses and Elijah were travelling around killing the reprobate with fire shooting out from their mouths, everyone would know that we were in one of the days of the Son of Man. Then everyone would know that His Hour is here.

Even so, Come Lord Jesus.
Peaceful Sabbath.