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THE FALLING AWAY IS WHEN DISINGENUOUS CHRISTIANS AND CULTS CEASE TO EVEN MENTION THE THINGS IN THE BIBLE

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When the Antichrist emerges on the scene he will make a peace treaty between many nations and Israel and become the leader of the anti-Christian Woke Progressive movement throughout the world. When this occurs every cult member and disingenuous believer, except those who will genuinely believe in Jesus during the time of the Antichrist, will cease to even mention the Bible in fear of being arrested and fulfill the falling away described in Matt.24. This idea is formed when we take into consideration that Dan 9 tells us the Antichrist makes a peace treaty at the beginning of the week and breaks it in the middle of the week when he and the False Prophet set up the abomination of desolation in Jerusalem. When we connect this sequence with the fact that the falling away, found in Matt. 24:10 occurs before the Antichrist and the False Prophet break the peace treaty and set up the abomination of desolation found in Matt. 24:15 and the fact that it occurs at a point in time when we Christians will be hated by all, as well as it occurrs when false prophets will arise and family members will turn on family members, we can see that the falling away, found in Matt. 24:9-10 occurs when the Antichrist rises to power and becomes the leader of the anti-Christian Woke Progressive movement. The false prophets will most likely be the academics among the disingenuous Christians and cults, who will twist the scriptures in order to justify realigning their mores with the Woke Progressive anti-Christian mores. This idea is supported by the fact that Dan. 7:25 tell us the Antichrist and the False Prophet will alter times and law. The False Prophet will most likely perform the Satanic signs described in Rev.13:13-15 in order to deceive his followers into thinking the Antichrist is the one the prophets in the Bible foretold would come.
Matt. 24:8 “ But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs. 9 “ Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations on account of My name. 10 “And at that time many will fall away and will deliver up one another and hate one another. 11 “And many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many.
Matt. 24:15 “Therefore when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place ( let the reader understand),
Dan. 7:25 ‘And he will speak out against the Most High and wear down the saints of the Highest One, and he will intend to make alterations in times and in law; and they will be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time.
 
When the Antichrist emerges on the scene
Many antichrists have and are already emerging on the Christian scene. Like small businesses being started and failing on a daily basis.

Just before the Lord's return, there will be one more last world-wide antichrist Christian cult leader. Many Christians and even unbelieving Jews will believe he is Christ come again from the dead in the flesh.


he will make a peace treaty between many nations and Israel and become the leader of the anti-Christian Woke Progressive movement throughout the world.
Woke is not real. An antichrist is. He'll be like the first one that preached legalist Judaism to Christians. That's why he'll win over many zealot Jews. And yes, it will be a world-wide organization of Christian-Jewish churches, with secular power given them by converting national and regional leaders. The tribulation for honest saints at that time will include persecution for not being proselytized to the faith of the beast.

Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. (Rev 14)

When this occurs every cult member and disingenuous believer, except those who will genuinely believe in Jesus during the time of the Antichrist, will cease to even mention the Bible in fear of being arrested and fulfill the falling away described in Matt.24.
Your characterization is correct; however, all antichrists and heretics quote the Bible in order to corrupt God's word and proselytize the unfaithful and/or ignorant believers.

As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Unbelievers that reject the Bible as God's written word are not a threat to believers. Only the false prophets and teachers and apostles are a threat to the body of Christ.

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.

And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. (2 Peter 2)

They don't deny Jesus is the Christ, but deny Him His proper Headship over His own body of believers.

This idea is formed when we take into consideration that Dan 9 tells us the Antichrist makes a peace treaty at the beginning of the week and breaks it in the middle of the week when he and the False Prophet set up the abomination of desolation in Jerusalem.
True. The beast's organizational HQ will be in Jerusalem. He will rise up a leading star in Christian-Jewish religion, and then show himself as God Himself, without any more pretence of ministering to build of the churches of God, but rather to own them for His own power and godhead.

It's how all cult leading antichrist's rise up in their own power. First by deceiving with twisting of Scripture, and then by making his own word to be Scripture to the proselytized followers.

Once the church and body of Jesus Christ is taken out of the way in the rapture, then there'll be no holds barred for keeping up appearances any longer. At the end of every cult lifetime, the leader makes it plain exactly what he is, and only the most deluded faithful follow him to the grave.

Sort of like Jim Jones, but the last antichrist doesn't have any death wish. Not for himself anyway. The Lord will have to toss him into the LOF to get rid of him and his second in command mouthpiece.

it occurs at a point in time when we Christians will be hated by all,
Faithful Christian saints will be hated by all Christian proselytes of the beast. All cult groups look outward at the whole world is deserving hatred, especially others daring to call themselves Christian.

It's sort of like OSAS Christians that begin spewing hatred and false accusation against any Christian saint preaching righteousness, and not just grace by faith alone.

The false prophets will most likely be the academics among the disingenuous Christians and cults, who will twist the scriptures in order to justify realigning their mores with the Woke Progressive anti-Christian mores.
I would rather say with the saved by grace while still sinning mores, combined with a legalism of self-righteous mores.

SOrt of like OSAS keeping sabbaths by law.

It's not that they are against the Bible, but only against taking God at His word, and not listening to the words of others.

And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers. (John 10)

Scripture is the only written voice heard by them that Love Jesus from the heart, to obey Him in spirit and body.

This idea is supported by the fact that Dan. 7:25 tell us the Antichrist and the False Prophet will alter times and law.
Exactly. Antichrist heretics altar Scripture to fit their own leadership time and rule over the congregation of followers.

The False Prophet will most likely perform the Satanic signs described in Rev.13:13-15 in order to deceive his followers into thinking the Antichrist is the one the prophets in the Bible foretold would come.
The only thing Satanic about a Christian antichrist is destroying the faith of Jesus among those professing His name. They do so the same as Satan did in the garden, by corrupting the word and commandment of the Lord.

For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

All antichrists are false prophets departing from the doctrine of God in Scripture, to establish their own rule and body of believers.

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. (1 John 4)

Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. (1 John 2)

No false apostle of another gospel wrested from Scripture comes out openly as an unbelieving Satan worshipper of other gods and religions. They simply corrupt the body from within the heart and mind, to begin acting like one in worshipping and holding to another head and christ, than Jesus.

False christs deny the true Head of the body, by turning His word and gospel into that of another man.
 
The falling away in 2thess 2:1- talking of the gathering together with Christ.... those who believe Jesus comes before the man of sin have been decieved. So those who believe in the pre trib rapture, when the man of sin shows up first many believers will fall away losing faith in christ return.... they will be unprepared physically mentally or spiritually....

This is also why 2peter 3:3-4 says. Know this First... scoffers will come in last days saying:

Where is his coming? The first thing in the last days or last 7 years... Jesus didnt show pre trib and now that its the tribulation the first thing people will say is: i thought you Christians said jesus was gonna come pre trib....


the world knows about the pre trib rapture where Christians think they just disapear....
 
James said: The False Prophet will most likely perform the Satanic signs described in Rev.13:13-15 in order to deceive his followers into thinking the Antichrist is the one the prophets in the Bible foretold would come.


Scripture Says: since they blasphemy the God of heaven how is it that they make people believe their prophets of the God of heaven? Are you sure you got this part right?
 
The Bible never defines just one antichrist with a capital "A", but says even now there are many and in the end of days will be the last time, 1 John 2:18. We have to remember that Satan is a created spirit and needs to work through others in order to build his literal kingdom here on earth as the war in heaven between Michael and Satan has not happened yet, Rev 12:7-12. This will be a Luciferian system of political, economic, military, environmental, educational and false religious power that founded in 1534 with its headquarters in Rome, Italy that will sit upon the mount of the congregation in the sides of the north which is Jerusalem on the same Temple mount of God where the Dome of the Rock is being refurbished for the son of perdition to take its seat. This power of the beast out of the sea gives power to the beast out of the earth who will control the government of every nation and even now works its iniquity in the world, Rev 13.

The beast that will rise up out of the sea, as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15, gives power to the beast that comes up out of the earth who is the last antichrist/ false prophet/son of perdition. His works is the abomination that causes desolation that Jesus forewarned us of in Matthew 24:15 and Daniel who explained this last of the seven remaining nations that still exist today and has always persecuted God's people from the time of Babylon up to present day unto the end of days, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Matthew 24:15; Revelation 13; Revelation 17:15. This will be the time of the greatest falling away from truth as this last antichrist, through lying signs and wonders will promise peace and safety and then sudden destruction comes upon them who bow down and takes the mark of this beast, 1 Thessalonians 5:1-6.

Jesus said those who will endure in the faith of Christ unto the end the same shall be saved, Matthew 24:13. Satan said, I will ascend into heaven; I will exalt my throne above the stars of God (other ruling powers) I will sit also upon the Mount of the Congregation in the sides of the north (Jerusalem). I will ascend above the clouds, I will be like the Most High, Isaiah 14:12-15. The last antichrist, (as there have been many and even now are in the world), is the son of perdition being the false prophet that Satan works through as he will sit on the sides of the North declaring himself as being God and will cause many to bow down to him and take his mark as many will believe the lying signs and wonders he will show, Rev 13. Again, nowhere in scripture does it capitalize antichrist, but mans misinterpretations capitalize it and makes it one Antichrist that we are to watch for before Christ returns.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 
Rbderrick said:Many Christians and even unbelieving Jews will believe he is Christ come again from the dead in the flesh.

Scripture Says: doesnt the Antichrist blasphemy the God of Heaven and everything in it?
 
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For his glory said:
"The Bible never defines just one antichrist"

Then you say:
"the beast that comes up out of the earth who is the last antichrist"

Scripture Says:everything that is not working for Gods kingdom is anti christ. Maybe you mean the last antichrist is one of many but, the "last antichrist" is one man...
 
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When the Antichrist emerges on the scene he will make a peace treaty between many nations and Israel and become the leader of the anti-Christian Woke Progressive movement throughout the world. When this occurs every cult member and disingenuous believer, except those who will genuinely believe in Jesus during the time of the Antichrist, will cease to even mention the Bible in fear of being arrested and fulfill the falling away described in Matt.24. This idea is formed when we take into consideration that Dan 9 tells us the Antichrist makes a peace treaty at the beginning of the week and breaks it in the middle of the week when he and the False Prophet set up the abomination of desolation in Jerusalem. When we connect this sequence with the fact that the falling away, found in Matt. 24:10 occurs before the Antichrist and the False Prophet break the peace treaty and set up the abomination of desolation found in Matt. 24:15 and the fact that it occurs at a point in time when we Christians will be hated by all, as well as it occurrs when false prophets will arise and family members will turn on family members, we can see that the falling away, found in Matt. 24:9-10 occurs when the Antichrist rises to power and becomes the leader of the anti-Christian Woke Progressive movement. The false prophets will most likely be the academics among the disingenuous Christians and cults, who will twist the scriptures in order to justify realigning their mores with the Woke Progressive anti-Christian mores. This idea is supported by the fact that Dan. 7:25 tell us the Antichrist and the False Prophet will alter times and law. The False Prophet will most likely perform the Satanic signs described in Rev.13:13-15 in order to deceive his followers into thinking the Antichrist is the one the prophets in the Bible foretold would come.
Matt. 24:8 “ But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs. 9 “ Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations on account of My name. 10 “And at that time many will fall away and will deliver up one another and hate one another. 11 “And many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many.
Matt. 24:15 “Therefore when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place ( let the reader understand),
Dan. 7:25 ‘And he will speak out against the Most High and wear down the saints of the Highest One, and he will intend to make alterations in times and in law; and they will be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time.
The apostasy has ended and the man of lawlessness revealed. There is no "the antichrist" coming
 
The Bible and my opinion Glory, time will reveal if I am correct.
Sorry, but everyone says the Bible and my opinion, but if one can not show where in the Bible, book, chapter and verse, then it is only ones opinion without facts.
 
Sorry, but everyone says the Bible and my opinion, but if one can not show where in the Bible, book, chapter and verse, then it is only ones opinion without facts.
2 Thes 2:3 is the verse, and that guarantees fulfillment at some point, I simply believe it has been fulfilled. The man of lawlessness is of course those who apostatized from the faith.
 
2 Thes 2:3 is the verse, and that guarantees fulfillment at some point, I simply believe it has been fulfilled. The man of lawlessness is of course those who apostatized from the faith.
If the son of perdition who is the last antichrist/false prophet has already come then that would also mean that we are now under a New World Order and being forced to take the mark of this beast according to 2Thessalonians 2:1-12 and Revelation Chapter 13. We can clearly see this has not happened yet, but will come soon in the future as this happens during the time of the seventh trumpet sounding according to Rev 11:15 - Rev 19:11-21.
 
The falling away in 2thess 2:1- talking of the gathering together with Christ.... those who believe Jesus comes before the man of sin have been decieved. So those who believe in the pre trib rapture, when the man of sin shows up first many believers will fall away losing faith in christ return.... they will be unprepared physically mentally or spiritually....
Pre or post or mid trib is misleading.

Only after we understand there are two kinds of tribulation on earth, then we can know when the rapture comes in context of tribulation.

The tribulation all saints must endure, as Jesus says (Matthew 13:21), is that of temptations and persecutions. Those things are pushed upon the saints by sinful and wrathful men. It's the devil's work against the saints. It began with Cain slaying Abel, because Cain was unrepentant and his brother was righteous.

The tribulation that saints are not appointed to, is the wrath of God upon the wicked. (Rom 2:9)

The Lord returns at the end of the tribulation and warfare made by the beast upon the saints, and begins to pour out His own tribulation and wrath upon all the earth. Egypt was a light foreshadowing of it.

The saints will be resurrected and rise to meet the Lord in the air in between the two differing tribulations.

the world knows about the pre trib rapture where Christians think they just disapear....
We don't disappear. We are resurrected from the dead, or changed alive to immortality where we stand on earth. All will see the immortal saints standing on the earth, and then rising to meet the Lord in the air, Whose return every eye has also seen.

The two witnesses in Rev 11 are only 2 of the great host of saints since Abel.

We don't know how long the resurrected saints will be standing on the earth in the sight of people, because Scripture doesn't say how long the two witnesses are seen standing, before being called up into the air by the Lord.

At that time, all unbelievers on earth will by sight become instant believers in the Lord Jesus Christ and the resurrection of the dead.

That's why all people on earth will wail with grief at the Lord's return and the first resurrection, because they did not repent to be saved and resurrected like Him. And the nations will also be angry at the 7th angel sounding, because they, like Cain, will hate the fact that they are displeasing to God.

Pharoah driving his army to the dry bed of the Red Sea, is also a small foreshadowing of the mass reprobation on earth, where many of the nations will actually gather around Armageddon to fight with the Lamb, His resurrected saints, and His armies of angels in the air.
 
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When the Antichrist emerges on the scene he will make a peace treaty between many nations and Israel and become the leader of the anti-Christian Woke Progressive movement throughout the world. When this occurs every cult member and disingenuous believer, except those who will genuinely believe in Jesus during the time of the Antichrist, will cease to even mention the Bible in fear of being arrested and fulfill the falling away described in Matt.24. This idea is formed when we take into consideration that Dan 9 tells us the Antichrist makes a peace treaty at the beginning of the week and breaks it in the middle of the week when he and the False Prophet set up the abomination of desolation in Jerusalem. When we connect this sequence with the fact that the falling away, found in Matt. 24:10 occurs before the Antichrist and the False Prophet break the peace treaty and set up the abomination of desolation found in Matt. 24:15 and the fact that it occurs at a point in time when we Christians will be hated by all, as well as it occurrs when false prophets will arise and family members will turn on family members, we can see that the falling away, found in Matt. 24:9-10 occurs when the Antichrist rises to power and becomes the leader of the anti-Christian Woke Progressive movement. The false prophets will most likely be the academics among the disingenuous Christians and cults, who will twist the scriptures in order to justify realigning their mores with the Woke Progressive anti-Christian mores. This idea is supported by the fact that Dan. 7:25 tell us the Antichrist and the False Prophet will alter times and law. The False Prophet will most likely perform the Satanic signs described in Rev.13:13-15 in order to deceive his followers into thinking the Antichrist is the one the prophets in the Bible foretold would come.
Matt. 24:8 “ But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs. 9 “ Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations on account of My name. 10 “And at that time many will fall away and will deliver up one another and hate one another. 11 “And many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many.
Matt. 24:15 “Therefore when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place ( let the reader understand),
Dan. 7:25 ‘And he will speak out against the Most High and wear down the saints of the Highest One, and he will intend to make alterations in times and in law; and they will be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time.

THE FALLING AWAY IS WHEN DISINGENUOUS CHRISTIANS AND CULTS CEASE TO EVEN MENTION THE THINGS IN THE BIBLE​


The hypocrites will still be mentioning and quoting the Bible, the same way Satan does, and Even began to do.

By corrupting it.

Eve added to the commandment, and the devil omitted part of the passage in Psalms.

It will just be more widespread, and the falling away is those doing the same, or willing to believe others who do so.

We must first depart from the doctrine of the apostles, in order to fall away from the faith and life of Jesus.

And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
 
If the son of perdition who is the last antichrist/false prophet has already come then that would also mean that we are now under a New World Order and being forced to take the mark of this beast according to 2Thessalonians 2:1-12 and Revelation Chapter 13. We can clearly see this has not happened yet, but will come soon in the future as this happens during the time of the seventh trumpet sounding according to Rev 11:15 - Rev 19:11-21.
We disagree on this subject maam. Time will have to answer that for us.
 
We disagree on this subject maam. Time will have to answer that for us.
Only JW believe and a few other false religions believe that the son of perdition has already come, but I already explained with scripture that this is yet future. Where is your proof that this has already happened?
 
Only JW believe and a few other false religions believe that the son of perdition has already come, but I already explained with scripture that this is yet future. Where is your proof that this has already happened?
Mat 24; Isa 2:2-4 Let me ask you Glory, do you believe we are very near the return of Jesus maam?
 
Mat 24; Isa 2:2-4 Let me ask you Glory, do you believe we are very near the return of Jesus maam?
The mountain of the Lord is described by Isaiah in the first 35 chapters as being Isaiah's first message of condemnation aimed at his own countrymen in Judah. Judah is riddled with moral and spiritual disease as the people are neglecting God as they bow down to ritualism and selfishness. But, God graciously invites them to repent and turn back to Him because this is their only hope of avoiding judgement.

This is the same in the last days as God calls from His Holy Mountain (Third Heaven) for those to Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities, Rev 18:4-5.

When one learns who the son of perdition is as the beast out of the sea gives power to this beast out of the earth for 3 1/2 years, Rev 13, then we will know that which Jesus said to flee from being the last antichrist/false prophet. I do not concern myself about the time of Christ return, but to be ready and being about my Fathers business until He returns. Jesus gave us clear signs of His return, but yet no one knows the day nor the hour of His return, including what year this will be.

Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
Mat 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
 
Words cannot express how being free from all this gloom and doom eschatology feels. I have a hope and a future and it isn’t just death or the end of the world.

Make no mistake, I see the rise of evil in western culture, more particularly Anglo-American and am grieved. I see the US in particular with its rise in crime, reduction and disrespect for the police, appointment of people to
power based solely on skin color and the church seeking experience and not God. Scary!
 

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