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According to a report by Dame Rachel de Souza (the UK's Children's Commissioner), 10% of 9 year olds have seen pornography. She also says there is evidence that shows a link between young people watching porn and incidents of child on child sexual abuse. In her words: "I am categorically clear: no child should be able to access or watch pornography." A study by Bernardo's found that more than half of child sexual abuse cases in the UK are perpetrated by children (2022 - up from a third in 2013).

Over a dozen states in the US have declared porn a public health crises.

According to Fight the New Drug:
Decades of studies from respected institutions have demonstrated significant impacts of porn consumption for individuals, relationships, and society. 73% of teens have seen porn. At least 1 in 3 porn videos show sexual violence of aggression. 53% of boys and 39% of girls believe pornography is a realistic depiction of sex. Porn consumers tend to be less satisfied in relationships, less committed, and more permissive of cheating. There is virtually no way to guarantee that pornographic content is consensual. Exploitation and trafficking are common experiences in the porn industry.

Why has there not been a concerted push back by Christians (who number some 2.38 billion people according to PEW research) against the pornographic industry? NCOSE (National Centre on Sexual Exploitation) began as a Christian movement and have had some limited success.

At the sermon on the mount Jesus said:
“You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot. You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven."

Ellicott's commentary on this use of 'salt of the earth' states:
The words are spoken to the disciples in their ideal character, as the germ of a new Israel, called to a prophetic work, preserving the earth from moral putrescence and decay. The general reference to this antiseptic action of salt is enough to give an adequate meaning to the words...

At the very least, adults are failing to protect children from seeing this material - surely a damning indictment? We are failing because we could have made sure children were protected from seeing it BEFORE we allowed porn to be as accessible as it is. Anyone accessing porn (whether they are Christian or not) is fuelling the industry and may end up actually watching someone being raped.

Porn is damaging the whole of society - not just our children.

I will add that I am not pointing the finger at everyone but myself - on the contrary, I point at all of us.
 
Hello Wheat Field .
That is great post and I agree the world is in such confusion because of unnatural lust.
I will always carry the sorrow in my heart of having failed my children in how a husband should regard his marriage as sacred.
I know God has forgiven me. I can see weaknesses in my children and I try to point them back to why they met.
As far as internet, tv, etc. that can be controled except where no responsible parent or adult is so again WF iI think your words are very wise.

Very honest of you journeyman.

Is your statement, '...why they met,' a typo? Could you explain?
 
Urban gay men have more sexual partners than gay men in other settings…
I'm still confused (thought I'd find a reference to your phrase online but didn't) - but I take your point that the general culture of sex saturation encourages what you describe...that our culture has, for many, normalized anything (almost but we are not quite there yet) goes.
 

Why aren't Christians defeating the pornographers?​


The Lord has given this country over to a deprived mind.

We are under Gods wrath.

God's Wrath on Unrighteousness

Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,
Rom 1:19 because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them.
Rom 1:20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, both His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.
Rom 1:21 For even though they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Rom 1:22 Professing to be wise, they became fools,
Rom 1:23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the likeness of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.
Rom 1:24 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them.
Rom 1:25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
Rom 1:26 For this reason God gave them over to dishonorable passions; for their females exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural,
Rom 1:27 and in the same way also the males abandoned the natural function of the female and burned in their desire toward one another, males with males committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
Rom 1:28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them over to an unfit mind, to do those things which are not proper,
Rom 1:29 having been filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips,
Rom 1:30 slanderers, haters of God, violent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents,
Rom 1:31 without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful;
Rom 1:32 and although they know the righteous requirement of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.
 

Why aren't Christians defeating the pornographers?​


The Lord has given this country over to a deprived mind.

We are under Gods wrath.

God's Wrath on Unrighteousness

Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,
Rom 1:19 because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them.
Rom 1:20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, both His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.
Rom 1:21 For even though they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Rom 1:22 Professing to be wise, they became fools,
Rom 1:23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the likeness of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.
Rom 1:24 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them.
Rom 1:25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
Rom 1:26 For this reason God gave them over to dishonorable passions; for their females exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural,
Rom 1:27 and in the same way also the males abandoned the natural function of the female and burned in their desire toward one another, males with males committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
Rom 1:28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them over to an unfit mind, to do those things which are not proper,
Rom 1:29 having been filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips,
Rom 1:30 slanderers, haters of God, violent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents,
Rom 1:31 without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful;
Rom 1:32 and although they know the righteous requirement of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.

Based on where culture (in the West at least) has got to currently, then it can't be long before the Bible is banned...the normalization of homosexuality today would deem such material deeply offensive would it not? - especially from a woke perspective. The sexual revolution began in the 60s, of course, with the legalization of porn in Denmark and the introduction of the pill.

Did it all start there?
 
Based on where culture (in the West at least) has got to currently, then it can't be long before the Bible is banned...the normalization of homosexuality today would deem such material deeply offensive would it not? - especially from a woke perspective. The sexual revolution began in the 60s, of course, with the legalization of porn in Denmark and the introduction of the pill.

Did it all start there?
I have read somewhere that the sexual revolution for the U.S. did start in the 60's.

However, sexual perversion has been around forever.
 
I have noticed an increase in women with lip augmentation; I assume this is driven by the influence of porn.
Maybe. This is something I wouldn't really know about.
I do see that actresses and celebrities are getting this lip augmentation.
It looks rather ugly IMO, but to each his own.

We definitely are sending out the wrong messages to our young women.
But how do we go backwards?
Do we even want to?

It used to be that a woman was looked up to for different reasons....
She was portrayed as a good companion for her husband,
a good mother for her children,
took care of her home, made food for her family,
and took care of things so that her working husband had less to do when he was at home.

How are women portrayed today?
What example are young girls getting?

Nuff said.
 
Hi ElmoGantry

Yes, absolutely!!! The believer is to rid their life of all such unrighteousness. You get no argument with me on that matter.

However, I'm talking about our relationships with those who are not a part of us. As I think I've been clear to state that we are to judge a brother or sister if sin is noted in their life. But Paul is clear that we are not to judge those who are not a part of us. So, all I'm saying is that these political/religious goals whereby some evangelical believers think that it's their job to police the laws and the people of the nation just isn't shown anywhere in the Scriptures.

There is nowhere that we read that a group of christians went out to effect some political/legal change in Rome or any of the other cities that Paul, Barbabas and other believers visited.

God bless,
Ted
Just a quick note to thank-you for your reply (I only just now realized the rules of the forum and will constrain my replies to the OP as instructed - whoops! 😅)
 
I wish it weren't as you describe but I think you are right. It is very depressing.

Apart from God, yes, the dark future taking shape before us right now would be depressing to me, too. But the life I live on this planet is actually just a brief preface to the real, eternal life I will live in the hereafter. God has made us all, not for time, but for eternity. We're all just waiting on the "porch" of the infinite "mansion" of eternal life until the door of death opens and we pass through it. Knowing this helps me to put the events of this world into a right perspective and to navigate them with a "long view" of things, not obsessing neurotically about the here-and-now.

2 Peter 3:10-14
10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.
11 Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness,
12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat!
13 But according to His promise we are looking for new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells.
14 Therefore, beloved, since you look for these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, spotless and blameless,

Philippians 3:20-21
20 For our citizenship is in heaven, from which also we eagerly wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ;
21 who will transform the body of our humble state into conformity with the body of His glory, by the exertion of the power that He has even to subject all things to Himself.
 
I can remember as a child there being a couple of porn movie theaters in my home town that were picketed at least a couple of times a year by local Christian churches who would try and capture on film the patrons leaving the theater .
Both of them eventually closed down.
How much the protests had to do with their closing is an open question I guess.
The point is though , there was a physical porn location where Christians could gather and "push back" .
I don't know what could be comparable to that today , everything being on the internet.
 
According to a report by Dame Rachel de Souza (the UK's Children's Commissioner), 10% of 9 year olds have seen pornography. She also says there is evidence that shows a link between young people watching porn and incidents of child on child sexual abuse. In her words: "I am categorically clear: no child should be able to access or watch pornography." A study by Bernardo's found that more than half of child sexual abuse cases in the UK are perpetrated by children (2022 - up from a third in 2013).

Over a dozen states in the US have declared porn a public health crises.

According to Fight the New Drug:
Decades of studies from respected institutions have demonstrated significant impacts of porn consumption for individuals, relationships, and society. 73% of teens have seen porn. At least 1 in 3 porn videos show sexual violence of aggression. 53% of boys and 39% of girls believe pornography is a realistic depiction of sex. Porn consumers tend to be less satisfied in relationships, less committed, and more permissive of cheating. There is virtually no way to guarantee that pornographic content is consensual. Exploitation and trafficking are common experiences in the porn industry.

Why has there not been a concerted push back by Christians (who number some 2.38 billion people according to PEW research) against the pornographic industry? NCOSE (National Centre on Sexual Exploitation) began as a Christian movement and have had some limited success.

At the sermon on the mount Jesus said:
“You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot. You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven."

Ellicott's commentary on this use of 'salt of the earth' states:
The words are spoken to the disciples in their ideal character, as the germ of a new Israel, called to a prophetic work, preserving the earth from moral putrescence and decay. The general reference to this antiseptic action of salt is enough to give an adequate meaning to the words...

At the very least, adults are failing to protect children from seeing this material - surely a damning indictment? We are failing because we could have made sure children were protected from seeing it BEFORE we allowed porn to be as accessible as it is. Anyone accessing porn (whether they are Christian or not) is fuelling the industry and may end up actually watching someone being raped.

Porn is damaging the whole of society - not just our children.

I will add that I am not pointing the finger at everyone but myself - on the contrary, I point at all of us.
Christians aren't defeating pornography because there are so few of us.
This world is under the control of the devil, and Christians are not of this world.
 
Apart from God, yes, the dark future taking shape before us right now would be depressing to me, too. But the life I live on this planet is actually just a brief preface to the real, eternal life I will live in the hereafter. God has made us all, not for time, but for eternity. We're all just waiting on the "porch" of the infinite "mansion" of eternal life until the door of death opens and we pass through it. Knowing this helps me to put the events of this world into a right perspective and to navigate them with a "long view" of things, not obsessing neurotically about the here-and-now.

How do you know this Tenchi? Do you know it with 100% certainty or are you guessing in hope? How do you deal with all the unanswered questions, the seemingly failed prophecies, the curious OT permissiveness when it comes to polygamy, the clash between Darwinism and Genesis 1 etc?
 
I can remember as a child there being a couple of porn movie theaters in my home town that were picketed at least a couple of times a year by local Christian churches who would try and capture on film the patrons leaving the theater .
Both of them eventually closed down.
How much the protests had to do with their closing is an open question I guess.
The point is though , there was a physical porn location where Christians could gather and "push back" .
I don't know what could be comparable to that today , everything being on the internet.

Interesting ta.

Now the pornographers have a physical presence within reach of every child in the civilized world. That we as adults have let this happen is staggering.

Governments could force a ban by targeting ISPs. Of course there are ways around this but, even so, there needs to be a demonstration that adults, parents, potential parents et al actually care about what happens to these little ones.

Are we actually witnessing the total addiction of vast swathes of society to porn such that they don't care any more? We all know about population collapse. Porn clearly does have a part to play in that.
 

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