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Are not the words there in Matt the words of Jesus...
Mat_24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand: )
6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time.
What is restraining will continue to restrain, so that he may be revealed IN HIS OWN time.
The time is at the end of the age.
The time is when the third temple is built.
Are not the words there in Matt the words of Jesus...
Mat_24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand: )
Indeed. Jesus Christ would not call a 21st century "Temple" built by Talmudic Cultists "Holy", therefore he must not be speaking of such a structure here.
Yup we are talking about 2000 years ago.What would Jesus call the place where the showbread and candlestick are kept? The name of that place is called the holy place. It identifies the place where the AOD is set up.
He was not being restrained from being born..... he was being restrained from his takeover of the temple.
Scripture? Where does scripture prophesy the construction of this 3rd temple?
Deb what makes a place holy?
The presence of the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of our God.
Then why would that spirit abide in a 21st century stone building, built and operated by Talmudic cultists who openly reject Christ, and who have no existing covenant with God? Any Future "Jewish" temple will be no more "Holy" than the current Islamic Dome of the Rock is. They would be equal in their un-holyness.
The Jews want a temple, because they reject Jesus as Messiah.
Their goal is to build the Temple so he (their messiah) will come.
Because they construct this temple and label the rooms; outer court, holy place and holy of holies, doesn't mean the holy place is "holy".
JLB
Then why would that spirit abide in a 21st century stone building, built and operated by Talmudic cultists who openly reject Christ, and who have no existing covenant with God? Any Future "Jewish" temple will be no more "Holy" than the current Islamic Dome of the Rock is. They would be equal in their un-holyness.
The Jews want a temple, because they reject Jesus as Messiah.
Their goal is to build the Temple so he (their messiah) will come.
Because they construct this temple and label the rooms; outer court, holy place and holy of holies, doesn't mean the holy place is "holy".
JLB
Then why couldn't they just rename the Dome-of-the-Rock? Re-purpose it like the Muslims did with so many Christian Churches throughout the mid-east, such as the Hagia Sophia.
27 He will make a firm covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and offering. And the abomination of desolation will be on a wing of the temple until the decreed destruction is poured out on the desolator." 70th week - Temple rebuilt and in use.
JLB
27 He will make a firm covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and offering. And the abomination of desolation will be on a wing of the temple until the decreed destruction is poured out on the desolator." 70th week - Temple rebuilt and in use.
JLB
What an awful translation you used.... different from the link you gave that i put my cursor over thankfully, but what you typed changes the definition 180 degrees.
The decreed destruction is poured out on the "Desolate", NOT the Desolator JLB.
The decreed destruction is poured out on the "Desolate", NOT the Desolator JLB.
http://www.templeinstitute.org/main.htm
What is the difference in saying The desolate one, or the desolator?
What is the Chapter and Verse of the prophesy being fulfilled by the templeinstitute?, and by what authority do you cite ANY current event as the fulfillment of Prophesy?Why ignore the New Temple that is being planned.
What good does it do to try and explain away bible prophecy being fulfilled.
I don't deny that Talmudic cultists want a pagan temple built, but it is NOT the fulfillment of ANY bible prophesy.Why deny it is happening?
ALL the difference in the world my friend. The CITY is is what is DESOLATE. The CITY is what suffers the decreed destruction that is poured out.
What is the Chapter and Verse of the prophesy being fulfilled by the templeinstitute?, and by what authority do you cite ANY current event as the fulfillment of Prophesy?
I don't deny that Talmudic cultists want a pagan temple built, but it is NOT the fulfillment of ANY bible prophesy.
This is one of the prophecies that teach us to look for another Temple at the end of the age.
Why would you want to cover up the truth of the scriptures?
That is your view of Scripture
That is your view of Scripture
I find it extremely disturbing that anyone who is a Christian and reads the words of Jesus, Paul and Daniel, could just simply ignore the idea of another Temple, with a false Christ proclaiming himself as God.
Now we see a movement in Jerusalem by several different groups and even calls from the Government for another Temple.
Yet you and those who hold to the preterist views still deny what Paul, Jesus and Daniel hay to say on this matter.
JLB
That is your view of Scripture
I find it extremely disturbing that anyone who is a Christian and reads the words of Jesus, Paul and Daniel, could just simply ignore the idea of another Temple, with a false Christ proclaiming himself as God.
Now we see a movement in Jerusalem by several different groups and even calls from the Government for another Temple.
Yet you and those who hold to the preterist views still deny what Paul, Jesus and Daniel hay to say on this matter.
JLB
I do not deny their words, rather I affirm their fulfillment, on time, as promised.
So you believe the Coming of the Lord at the end of the age to gather His people at the resurrection, and destroy the Lawless one by the brightness of His Coming is all in the past?
JLB
So you believe the Coming of the Lord at the end of the age to gather His people at the resurrection, and destroy the Lawless one by the brightness of His Coming is all in the past?
JLB
I believe ALL Bible eschatology had its PRIMARY fulfillment in the apostles generation.
Any application for US (or any post apostolic generation) must be viewed in light of the original application intended by Christ and the apostles for the original receivers.
As the temple itself was designed to be a microcosm of the created universe, it's destruction in 70AD may indeed foreshadow a future consummation of the cosmos, but it would not be an end of creation as much as a new outworking of it.
For sure, whatever God has in store for the future of His creation, the timing and details have not been revealed to men.
So you believe the Coming of the Lord at the end of the age to gather His people at the resurrection, and destroy the Lawless one by the brightness of His Coming is all in the past?
JLB
I believe ALL Bible eschatology had its PRIMARY fulfillment in the apostles generation.
Any application for US (or any post apostolic generation) must be viewed in light of the original application intended by Christ and the apostles for the original receivers.
As the temple itself was designed to be a microcosm of the created universe, it's destruction in 70AD may indeed foreshadow a future consummation of the cosmos, but it would not be an end of creation as much as a new outworking of it.
For sure, whatever God has in store for the future of His creation, the timing and details have not been revealed to men.
Do you believe Jesus Christ has come and the resurrection is past?
Yes or No?
JLB
So you believe the Coming of the Lord at the end of the age to gather His people at the resurrection, and destroy the Lawless one by the brightness of His Coming is all in the past?
JLB
I believe ALL Bible eschatology had its PRIMARY fulfillment in the apostles generation.
Any application for US (or any post apostolic generation) must be viewed in light of the original application intended by Christ and the apostles for the original receivers.
As the temple itself was designed to be a microcosm of the created universe, it's destruction in 70AD may indeed foreshadow a future consummation of the cosmos, but it would not be an end of creation as much as a new outworking of it.
For sure, whatever God has in store for the future of His creation, the timing and details have not been revealed to men.
Do you believe Jesus Christ has come and the resurrection is past?
Yes or No?
JLB
I'd have to say Yes AND No.
Already, but not yet.