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Resident Evil (Is it really evil?)
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Chopper
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K2CHRIST, are you sure you want me to believe that this statement of yours is real?....
That's not the Lord that I serve. Perhaps you didn't mean that statement the way it sounds. I know you went on and said more, I just scratched my head on that one.
That's not the Lord that I serve. Perhaps you didn't mean that statement the way it sounds. I know you went on and said more, I just scratched my head on that one.
K2CHRIST, are you sure you want me to believe that this statement of yours is real?....
That's not the Lord that I serve. Perhaps you didn't mean that statement the way it sounds. I know you went on and said more, I just scratched my head on that one.
Chopper - what are you doing in this world, which promotes sin, unless God put you here?? And you have trouble thinking God would take someone to a movie in this world? What movie doesn't in some way promote sin? Even the best Christian movies are offset in an environment that promotes sin, usually to show us how to avoid sin in the environment. Or supposed they show us how to avoid sin.
All unrighteousness is sin, and only God is good. So to know what is the right thing to do means listening to God, and that every time you turn to the right of to the left.
Is 30:21 "Your ears will hear a word behind you, "This is the way, walk in it," whenever you turn to the right or to the left.
So it was that the prophets went places and often place that promoted sin! Yet I find people "Christians" that depend on their understanding of the Scriptures instead of actually listening to the Lord for direction.
Gal 3:22 But the Scriptures has shut up everyone under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.
It is amazing how we think. Jonah hears the Lord asking him to go to Nineveh, that wicked city of his time, and chooses not to listen. Apparently he was "scratching his head" right? Ananias after being asked to go to Saul, tells the Lord "Lord, I have heard from many about this man, how much harm he did..." Apparently he was "scratching his head" And when God shows Peter a vision and says "Get up, Peter, kill and eat!" Peter responds "By no means, Lord, for I have never eaten any thing unholy and unclean," (Act 10:14) Peter was "scratching his head".
We make judgments, instead of listening. We tell God He is wrong, not realizing what we are doing. And we scratch our head. Yet God makes sense. God teaches. We need to listen! And God does not, as we can easily see in the Scriptures if we just pay a bit of attention to what we read, think like we think! So you need to listen and stop leaning on your own understanding. If you have a question, take it to the Lord. He did say through Isaiah, "Come now, and let us reason together" (Is 1:18) You will stop scratching your head when you start listening to Him, because it is correctly written "The Lord gives wisdom; from His mount come knowledge and understanding" (Prov 2:6)
Do you not know the Lord is the creator of heaven and earth? And He put you on earth, so He had a reason, and that even considering this world promotes sin. Is there not things for you to learn? Even things like Peter had to learn, like Jonah had to learn, like Ananias had to learn?
All unrighteousness is sin. Peter, if he had not finally (and twice the Lord had to go over it with Peter) gone to Cornelius, it would have been the wrong, unrighteous, sinful thing. And if Jonah had not gone to Nineveh (and the Lord had to puck him from the sea) it would have been the wrong, unrighteous, and sinful thing. And if Ananias, has not gone to Saul (and the Lord had to explain the reason after the objection) it would have been the wrong, unrighteous, and sinful thing.
We get religious. We get leaning on our understanding. We don't listen. We get stubborn. We don't reason with the Lord. We then scratch our head instead of obtain understanding. I remember the Lord telling me to see "Anger Management" and I wound up arguing with the Lord about not going, I did wind up going, and the movie is not all that great in many ways. But there were some things I learned from seeing it. People can hide problems they have even to themselves. And while you might not easily see it in the movie, the Lord (kind of like the Jack Nicholson character) can help you see it if you will let Him move in and do His work. Though He works in mysterious ways.
that fizzy guy
Member
Well your op is..."is it really evil" either way it's kind of like asking do things made by man(mankind) have some form of sin in them?
The answer yes for example Resident Evil if you are referring to the movies there is certainly sin in them and just like in the games there is sin in them, some examples would be in the movies giving the idea of genetic altering people to be something else or government officials ignoring their people,or in general making killing something someone wants to do for a thrill.
The other side of this would be the gaming atmosphere which basically is "Gambling" and not just for resident evil,nearly every game in the world has some form of gambling(gambling one's fictional life in a game, gambling fictional money or real money) like even the two very first games made "Pong"(guy didn't get a license technically first video game made) and "Star wars"(the first official game made because magnavox got a patent) pong is basically tennis back and forth where it is "luck" that you win or lose in a sense and starwars has a fictional character that requires hand eye coordination but you risk a fictional character's life to progress in a sense all of this can be classified as "sinful" so yes they are sinful but, "Evil" not necessarily because while they can lead one to do "Evil" things by "influence" they are only as "powerful" as the "power" one gives them.
A good example of this for either videos or games is whether or not you are "active" in "real life" because if an individual leaves their heads in such things for extended periodsit can "hurt your body"(I know this from experience) and diminish one's "spirit" allowing satan and one's own flesh to subject an individual to "evil thoughts" and possibly to "do evil".
There is a fine though between "evil" and "sin" evil is classified as doing things horrendously with "no remorse" nor "thought to change wrong doings" sin is classified as things God/Jesus does not approve of us doing but we can ask forgiveness for or better yet ask God/Jesus to guide us to "change" for the "better".
"Remorse" and "willingness to change" are very important because if one lives by "habit" one can likely "do wrong" whether saved or unsaved because in such times one's "mind" and "heart" are not joined with God/Jesus's and so we are "Vulnerable" of our own doing.
Think of any show movie or game as a tar pit or sinking sand the longer one stays in it the more likely that one will not "leave it" and unlike sand or tar the more one spends in it the more one will"remember" day to day and the more likely one will "get back in to it" and "ignore life" but, this can easily be "counter acted" by simply "taking a break" for however long to say "read the bible", "go to church","listen to gospel songs" "do chores", "cook food" or "interact with others".
To be more frank "evil" doesn't come from "material things" it comes from people's "minds" and "hearts" and though you might "feel" the evil or something from such things the items themselves aren't "evil" for they are not "alive".
that fizzy guy
Member
Actually that's not "accurate" when we do things that are "flesh minded" or "sin based" though God/Jesus may watch he is definitely "not in the room" because in those times are "minds" and "hearts" are not merged with God/Jesus though it is possible to still "tune into" the Holy spirit but you must have your "mind" and "heart" focused on God's word or things of God.
For example I play Yugioh Gx usually when talking on these Christian sites(except on Sunday for a sabbath) and while I can still think on things of God my "mind" and "heart" are more prone to "prideful" or "lustful thoughts"(even yugioh gx sends me for a loop with the exaggerated female measurements and cute expressions if you know what I mean) but when I "pause" to answer a question pertaining to "God's word" I am more prone to "being led in spirit" to answer "truthfully" and "adequately" so there is I believe a degree of "interchanging" where while God/Jesus doesn't "forsake us" he is "present with us" according to our "minds and hearts".
Edward
2024 Supporter
You said a mouthful there Brother and I agree with at least most of it...Some I still need to chew on, lol.
As you say, He prolly isn't in the room while we're doing worldly things...But He's certainly watching. That's about the same thing to me.
that fizzy guy
Member
I never was one to totally chew my food lol when I answer in the spirit it may be a very long post lol but, yes I agree he's definitely "watching".
Edward
2024 Supporter
Some of your post was hard to understand. I think auto correct messed it up some.
that fizzy guy
Member
Yeah but actually it's "swype" if I "type fast" sometimes my words are automatically put or sometimes if I start a word like....
christian and it turn out chrisikmnn instead it's weird but, somehow I manage of course my fingers are big too which doesn't help lol,also I'm still getting over a bout of mold and annoying gas/bloating and acid reflux it's a wonder I answer at all on any Christian site but I'm determined to keep moving forward and excited because this month I might finally move out on my own!
Sistrin, and us people in general, might very well be correct when we say watching or doing certain things won't effect us or our belief in God, and even more important, our relationship with God. Sistrin didn't mention our relationship, but that is the real important thing.
Yet how do we know if what we said is true? Honest, it does seem a bit naïve to think that if I continually involve myself is something promoting "Resident Evil" or evil in anyway that I won't somehow be effected by it. It basically is the question that had Chopper scratching his head. It is a valid question and a valid concern! I might think it doesn't effect me when it actually does. If I really think about it, it seems it must, but if I don't want to honestly think about it I can easily claim it doesn't.
Again the answer needs to come through the Lord!!!
Paul said He took all thoughts captive to the Lord. That is, Paul asked the Lord and listen by faith to what the Lord had to say about things. If I am doing that, taking all thoughts captive to Him and listening to Him, how is my relationship and belief with Him doing? Well, of course if I am indeed taking all thoughts captive to Him and trying to get His will done in my life, then my relationship with God and my belief in God is going to remain strong. Also, if my actions are going to be harmful to me, God will know and advise appropriately.
Now a person not seeking God is going to have problems with answering the question as to whether playing or watching certain things is ok or not. The person playing is certainly not going to know, and if they are not taking the question to the Lord at some point, what is their belief in Jesus Christ, the living and active Word of God? And the religious person, that is a person leaning on their understanding of God (our religion is our understanding of God) is liable to become judgmental of others and lack understanding, causing them to scratch their head with "disbelief". They tend to think that the other person has a demon, but as they judge so shall they me judged. Jesus didn't judge, but as He heard He judged. He did and even said only what the Father told Him. He took all thoughts captive to God and was completely obedient.
Now God is not different from the Bible, but we don't completely understand unless we actually do listen to Him. We are living in this world, and He put us here. And we have games and movies, entertainment, and He is not unaware that it exists. God created this world and certainly understands it. He understands better than us that demons exists around us, so what about a game with demons in it? Maybe we need to be more aware of what is going on around us. Maybe the game has value? Maybe we need to avoid all that understanding? Again the questions, and again the answer is going to be Jesus Christ. We need to listen to His voice, like the Bible says His sheep do!
This is the Questions for Christians forum and responses should be directed to the OP. If you wish to discuss the topic further, it is best to start a new thread in the appropriate forum.
Just so you all know, the original poster (OP) has not been seen online since February, 2017.
Just so you all know, the original poster (OP) has not been seen online since February, 2017.
that fizzy guy
Member
Someone that is baiting usually posts a thread and then sits back to watch the responses. This is not the case with this member. I don't think rpguy was trying to bait anyone. He responded to answers in this thread and has 41 previous posts. He just hasn't been active for some time. My point is, responding to the OP may not be very fruitful if he hasn't been around to read them. Although, he could still be reading without logging in.
We need to be respectful of all members, Christian and non-Christian alike.
that fizzy guy
Member
Ok cool and I agree I try to be respectful but other Christian sites get me a bit riled or suspicious of others at times I have seen many trolls,like baiters, trouble stirrers, or closed minded people so I simply "keep an eye out" for possible trolls,I believe you to be sincere on the Op not being such an individual so I "retract" my previous post respectfully.
Its considered entertainment.
Do you think such play would cause you to do these things?
This is what makes a person unclean
But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them. 19For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20These are what defile a person; but eating with unwashed hands does not defile them.”
Do we think such play would cause you to do these things? (murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander)
Well, that is the question, isn't it?
If someone, say a kid for instance, plays games where they spend hour upon hour playing a game where they kills others, would it increase the likely hood that they might someday decide to kill someone. And remember there is something about just saying raca.
Mat 5: 22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Yeah - it seems perfect logical that there would be a greater chance that someone having played murderous games would indeed perhaps kill someone, and at least to the point of saying Race, or something to that effect in modern terms.
I think there could certainly be an increase in sexual immorality if we watch lots of sexual immorality on our televisions, computer screens, and in our movie theaters. In fact in our society today it is fairly hard to avoid seeing at least the implication of that.
I guess it doesn't mean a person would, but I would obviously expect that a kid who watch movies and game promoting all kinds of evil coming out of other people mouth could and probably would wind up with that on their heart.
So what do you do, and how do you know if it is effecting you?
Talk to the Lord and look for His voice. He said He stands at the door and knocks and if anyone hears His voice and opens the door He will come into them. And it is also written that the Word of God we preach can be found in our hearts and on our lips, and that is the Word of God we are preaching. (Rev 3:20, Rms 10)
It is foolish to not seek the Lord Jesus Christ and His counsel that we get from the Spirit of God speaking to our spirit! It's foolish to plays many of the games today, and watch most of the movies today without talking to Him! In fact, it is wise to take all thoughts captive to Him, which would include thoughts about what games to play and what movies to watch. And we shouldn't think leaning on our understanding is going to get it done. You are not God, and there is something written about our best works being like filthy rags to Him.
So if a person is thinking it is ok to play this game and go to that movie without seeking the Lord about those thoughts, they are making a mistake. And if you are thinking a person should not play that game or see that movie without seeking the Lord about those thoughts, you too are making a mistake. We make mistake by not believing in a Omni-present God who really wants to have a personal relationship with us and help guide us in this world.
If your faith doesn't allow you to play video games then for you don't. I am comfortable enough in my salvation that I can, if I want to, play a first person shooter video game without fear from the Lord. It wouldn't change my heart.
I have the Spirit of Christ in me and don't need to open any additional doors. That Spirit did change my heart.
And we were speaking of video "games".
Our faith is in Jesus Christ, is it not? So it should not be a question of what our faith allows, but rather a question of what our Lord allows!
This is important to understand, because if it is "what our faith allows" then we are searching our traditions, our understanding, and our understanding of our religion. I feel this is what most of us do. Yet if it is a question of what our Lord allows, then it requires a conversation with Him!
Are we preaching a religion or a relationship? For me, I preach Jesus Christ and Him crucified. By that I mean I know someone, Him, who talks to me. So as to what movie to see or if I should play a game, it is a question of seeking advice from Him. This is not an argument with others, it is telling them that Jesus Christ really does exist, and via His Holy Spirit, you can communicate back and forth with Him. He is really interesting to talk to, and by that I mean reason back and forth with.
Is 1:18 "Come now, and let us reason together," says the Lord
Is that what we are tell people, when they ask about whatever it is ok to watch a certain movie, or play a certain game?
So often on this site, "The Christian Forum", it seems like I am saying one thing and the rest are saying another. I am saying let us seek the Lord in our lives and listen to what He tells us, where are others seem to be saying to follow our religion or our faith, meaning it is ok to do what we think is right if we believe it is right according to our person faith or understanding. A man's religion is his understanding of God. When you talk to the Lord, you get His understanding, but do we even believe He is with us to be heard. According to our faith, we do, but what about according to our actions? Do we seek Him?
Do we seek Him before going to a movie or playing a game? Do you believe in Jesus Christ, really?
This is important to understand, because if it is "what our faith allows" then we are searching our traditions, our understanding, and our understanding of our religion. I feel this is what most of us do. Yet if it is a question of what our Lord allows, then it requires a conversation with Him!
Are we preaching a religion or a relationship? For me, I preach Jesus Christ and Him crucified. By that I mean I know someone, Him, who talks to me. So as to what movie to see or if I should play a game, it is a question of seeking advice from Him. This is not an argument with others, it is telling them that Jesus Christ really does exist, and via His Holy Spirit, you can communicate back and forth with Him. He is really interesting to talk to, and by that I mean reason back and forth with.
Is 1:18 "Come now, and let us reason together," says the Lord
Is that what we are tell people, when they ask about whatever it is ok to watch a certain movie, or play a certain game?
So often on this site, "The Christian Forum", it seems like I am saying one thing and the rest are saying another. I am saying let us seek the Lord in our lives and listen to what He tells us, where are others seem to be saying to follow our religion or our faith, meaning it is ok to do what we think is right if we believe it is right according to our person faith or understanding. A man's religion is his understanding of God. When you talk to the Lord, you get His understanding, but do we even believe He is with us to be heard. According to our faith, we do, but what about according to our actions? Do we seek Him?
Do we seek Him before going to a movie or playing a game? Do you believe in Jesus Christ, really?
DiscipleDave
Member
Does playing those games make you commit sin in any way?
Does playing those games take precedence over reading the Bible, Bible study, going to Church, CC, etc. .. . .?
Do you think Jesus would be offended by watching you play that game?
Is someone offended by seeing you play that game?
If you answered NO, to all those questions, your fine, no sin. You can also put in Songs above in the underlined sections. Or put anything else in the ___________________. To determine what is sinful or what is not sinful.
Know you not that it is the Holy Ghost that convicts a person what is sinful or not sinful. The Holy Ghost may convict a person that eating pizza is sinful. And for that person to eat pizza it would indeed be sinful. However the problem is when one person starts telling others that ________________ is sinful. When the Holy Ghost has not convicted them that it is sinful. What is sinful for one person may not be sinful for another.
A person can watch a TV episode and not lust at all, while another watches that same episode and Lusts a great deal. The show itself is not sinful, but the results that the show causes may be sinful. A knife on the table, is it good or evil? It's neither, but depending on how its used determines whether it is used for good or for evil. if i stab and kill someone with that knife, i have used it for evil, if i cut some lettuce to make lunch, i have used it for good. Internet, Good or evil. Facebook, Good or evil, it all depends on how it is used.
A person who plays a game from the time he/she gets home till he/she goes to bed, every day, the game is probably NOT GOOD, and it doesn't matter if the game is Pac-Man. (did i just reveal my age? lol)
General rule of thumb, that i believe is anything done in excess (unless Godly) is not good. Eating is not sinful. Eat to much is.
i guess what i am trying to say, be leary of any person, myself included that tells you what is sinful or not sinful. Of course if the Bible says it is sinful, then there is no question that is sinful. but on other things that the Bible does not specifically talk about, let every person judge their own self what is sinful and what is not sinful, and let nobody tell another what is sinful based on what the Holy Ghost has convinced that person is sinful. The Holy Ghost may convict a person to not eat meat, for that person to eat meat contrary the conviction of the Holy Ghost does indeed commit sin. But if that person tries to teach others that eating meat is a sin, is against God. The Holy Ghost will convince them, NOT YOU. The Holy Ghost does not convict me that eating a steak is sinful, therefore i can eat steak. But if i offend someone by eating steak in front of them, then i to commit sin, not because i have eaten meat, but because i knowingly offended a brother or sister in the lord who is convicted not to eat meat.
Whatever the Bible says is sinful is indeed sinful. All other things the Holy Ghost will convict individually if it be sinful or not.
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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††
DiscipleDave
